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post #13291 of 13739
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

I don't know whether they should be in the MTM business or not, however, if they are going to be it should be of a reasonable quality. Incentivized or not, turning out a bad product, if indeed that is what is happening, is bad for brand and business. The thing is, you seemed to be saying that since SuSu is a fashion brand that we shouldn't expect reasonable results from MTM. That's just wrong any way you cut it. If that isn't what you were saying then we have no disagreement.

To give you an example, in the London store there's 3-4 full time guys for the measuring and fitting. They're always fully booked and you need to reserve a 1 hour slot at least a month in advance if not longer. Shows it's a considerable part of the business, and definitely bigger than some of the other bespoke/mtm operations.
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Regarding their MTM: As far as I know, the MTM is completely separate production-wise from their RTW. In particular, the base cut for their MTM is different from all their RTW models. So do not expect better results from the MTM if one of their RTW cuts fits you reasonably well. I would love if they could adapt the Jort. I habe tried Munro tailoring once (not via SuSu, but supposedly the same) and was less than excited by the outcome.
post #13293 of 13739

Guys, in my opinion MTM is just a more expensive RTW.

 

They market the idea of "exclusivity", let you choose some more "features"; pleats, more fabrics, side adjusters and some other BS.

 

In the end of the day, you we're just measured to fit a standard suit cut that will be machine made somewhere in China... They even call it Handmade MTM...

 

No wonder nobody seems quite satisfied with the result.

post #13294 of 13739
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Originally Posted by mbaltazar View Post

Guys, in my opinion MTM is just a more expensive RTW.

They market the idea of "exclusivity", let you choose some more "features"; pleats, more fabrics, side adjusters and some other BS.

In the end of the day, you we're just measured to fit a standard suit cut that will be machine made somewhere in China... They even call it Handmade MTM...

No wonder nobody seems quite satisfied with the result.

But couldn't you say this about most MTM? I mean it's clearly not bespoke for the price. Even suits from the praised Kent Wang MTM have you have on a RTW suit and they adjust from there based on your feedback.

Now I have been satisfied with SuSu RTW, the items for me usually fit pretty well. So to be able to adjust certain things, adding side adjusters, the lapels I want, and the shoulder construction of my choice in the exact fabric I'm looking for may be worth it for me if I really love the fabric and can't get it anywhere RTW.

I know Timo had a beautiful Solaro suit made for him which came out pretty nice in my opinion and even though this was some time ago, it always made me want to try a MTM suit from them but I never did because there wasn't a SuSu nearby. Now that they are in San Francisco I may attempt it "only" because the RTW suits fit me pretty well.
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Originally Posted by jtorres94 View Post

But couldn't you say this about most MTM? I mean it's clearly not bespoke for the price. Even suits from the praised Kent Wang MTM have you have on a RTW suit and they adjust from there based on your feedback.

Now I have been satisfied with SuSu RTW, the items for me usually fit pretty well. So to be able to adjust certain things, adding side adjusters, the lapels I want, and the shoulder construction of my choice in the exact fabric I'm looking for may be worth it for me if I really love the fabric and can't get it anywhere RTW.

I know Timo had a beautiful Solaro suit made for him which came out pretty nice in my opinion and even though this was some time ago, it always made me want to try a MTM suit from them but I never did because there wasn't a SuSu nearby. Now that they are in San Francisco I may attempt it "only" because the RTW suits fit me pretty well.

To me it's applicable to any MTM. Not this or that brand/ maker.

If you like it and you know that the "base" is a RTW garment with adjustments, go for it. The price is not that off.

Now please stop the "handmade MTM mumbo jumbo bullshit" because that is bespoke.
post #13296 of 13739

I ordered a SuSu MTM suit from the newly opened Copenhagen SuSu shop a day before this discussion began. Now you all have me worried :/

I have a dropped right shoulder, I wear a size 48 in trousers, 46 in chest and only 44 on shoulders. I just can't seem to find a great fit for their standard jackets, Washington and Hudson being the closest, yet they are a bit too long in jacket length and wide in the shoulders. (I'm not fat I just have a triangle shape body with long legs)

 

About my fitting experience:

The fitter seemed experienced. He told me that he had worked in some of the Netherland shops as fitter before taking on the role in the Copenhagen one.

 

I'm opting for a dark charcoal Mohair 3-piece suit with pleated shoulders (con rollino) and pleated high waist trousers. The fitter informed me that they don't do con rollino but that their Spalla Camicia shoulders on MTM is more aggressive than for example the Jort giving it a con rollino look. The shoulder design wasn't a deal breaker for me so I accepted spalla camicia.

 

Trousers were measured at a 98 (long), this will give more of a waist. He made corrections for fit tapering legs and flattening the butt.

Vest is a size 44 with some tapering on the back and let out in the sides around the hip.

Jacket is a size 46 with the shoulders taken in to a size 44. Right shoulder is dropped and armholes lifted.

 

The fitter helped show examples of different details by showcasing the standard collection. He also offered his advice on what details would be flattering, some of which I took.

 

The fitting took more than one and a half hour. They serve great coffee.


Edited by AlexHffK - 9/8/16 at 8:42am
post #13297 of 13739
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Originally Posted by mbaltazar View Post

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To me it's applicable to any MTM. Not this or that brand/ maker.

If you like it and you know that the "base" is a RTW garment with adjustments, go for it. The price is not that off.

Now please stop the "handmade MTM mumbo jumbo bullshit" because that is bespoke.

Then we are on the same line of thinking, completely agree.
post #13298 of 13739
^^ Good to hear!
post #13299 of 13739
My point is that the people making the adjustments don't know what they're doing. A suit is a 3D object, and adjusting just one thing can have wider implications for the fit of a jacket. Hence my story of the sales associate wanting to adjust for a dropped shoulder and messing up the whole jacket.

If you simply want the base model in a different fabric/lapels/side adjusters then go ahead (bear in mind that their base model is not any of the known RTW fits). Anything else and it's a crapshoot. MTM is not bespoke, but it should be more than just this. Look at Steed MTM for example (also considerably more expensive).

I'd call the above MTO. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you know what you're paying for.
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By the by, I just took my handheld steamer to the lapels of my SuSu tuxedo I just got. Interestingly, steaming out the creases that make the lapels lie flat gives a gorgeous rolled appearance to them. Looks much better now. I wonder why they don't do that to the ones they sell in the stores.

post #13301 of 13739
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

By the by, I just took my handheld steamer to the lapels of my SuSu tuxedo I just got. Interestingly, steaming out the creases that make the lapels lie flat gives a gorgeous rolled appearance to them. Looks much better now. I wonder why they don't do that to the ones they sell in the stores.

+1. I normally ask my drycleaner to do this with great results.
post #13302 of 13739

Yeah, it doesn't work with every kind of jacket. Soft canvas doesn't seem to react this way, for instance. But for some it can make it look a lot better.

post #13303 of 13739
How are the pants rise for suitsupply odd trousers and suit trousers? Are they low/medium or high rise? If anyone have a odd trouser or suit trouser... could you possibly share the rise measurment? I would be truly greatful. Thanks!
post #13304 of 13739
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Originally Posted by ptr1988 View Post

How are the pants rise for suitsupply odd trousers and suit trousers? Are they low/medium or high rise? If anyone have a odd trouser or suit trouser... could you possibly share the rise measurment? I would be truly greatful. Thanks!

Odd trousers lower than suit trouser
post #13305 of 13739
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post

Odd trousers lower than suit trouser

I had a Cargo pants that I gave away. They were really, really low rise for me "likings"
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