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post #16 of 51
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As a Negro red bone means refers to a light skinned (or skinneded) Black person to me.
But apparently they are also a tri-racial group. The Red Bones are from SC but migrated to Louisiana and East Texas in the 1700's. They lived in a neutral zone, near the Sabine River established by America and Spain while they were deciding where the boundaries of the Louisiana purchase were. The area was full of land pirates and other lawless sorts and these people supposedly have contributed alot to the Redbones bloodline.

Pretty interesting article.
http://www.afrigeneas.com/library/redbones.html

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The term Redbone became disfavored in the late 1960s,[2] as it was a pejorative nickname applied by others[2] to the geographically and socially isolated light-complexioned populations in most western Louisiana parishes, from Sabine Parish in the northwest and Rapides Parish near the center of the state down to Calcasieu Parish in the southwest.[3] This area is roughly coextensive with what was once known as the Neutral Ground or Sabine Free State, when no US state exercised jurisdiction over the area from the Calcasieu River on the east to the Sabine River on the west.[4] Families ancestral to the Louisiana Redbones came primarily from South Carolina (where they faced legal classification as "other free persons", in other words, non-white[1]) to the hills and prairies of western Louisiana,[2] following the Louisiana Purchase by the United States in 1803.[5] In this area, the settlers successfully resisted categorization as non-white. Enough discrimination existed so they typically established their own communities with churches, stores, and schools.[5] Though their descendants now number over 20,000 individuals[1] and are dispersed to other states,[1] especially eastern Texas,... They have established family name, genetic, and historical websites to collect and trace their common heritage. The DNA results thus far show that while most of the families have Native American markers in varying degrees, and some of them have sub-Saharan African markers, others lack the latter. Markers associated with the Romani people and other South Asian peoples have turned up, indicating that in some cases the dark complexions came from South Asian immigrants (Indians were transported to Virginia during colonial times as laborers), along with Protestantism and English surnames via the British Isles.[8]
post #17 of 51
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He's not the last living Appellation Mountain Dancer, not the last Appalachian Mountain Dancer. There are quite a few guys that still do that type of dance in that area, they just don't have camera crews and Hank Williams III as a friend.

BTW, there have been three documentaries about the Whites, the most recent one is sadly hilarious, like watching the worst Jerry Springer episode. Except you know it's not scripted. It's on Netflix Instant if you're interested.

The White family, ironically enough, is truly the strongest argument against white supremacy on Earth.
They may argue against this point. Blanc Mantignon in google books: http://ow.ly/5oBil
"The caste solidarity and tribal identity of the Blancs Matignon, of Guadeloupe, claiming kinship with Prince Rainier of Monaco and still living in the mountains of this Caribbean island after 350 years, are impressive. But they are an unintelligent bunch of peasants, racially bigoted and consequently deformed, mentally and physically, through incest."
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As a Negro red bone means refers to a light skinned (or skinneded) Black person to me.
Pretty interesting article.
http://www.afrigeneas.com/library/redbones.html

Part of a wiki article under the spoiler.
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I've heard it used to describe a particular sort of light-skinned black person. Reddish, obviously. Malcolm X, IIRC, was nicknamed "Red" as a teen.
post #19 of 51
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I've heard it used to describe a particular sort of light-skinned black person. Reddish, obviously. Malcolm X, IIRC, was nicknamed "Red" as a teen.
People tend to call anyone light red bone. Growing up I was called it though I don't consider myself light and am certainly not red. It is pretty uncommon for men to be called it.
post #20 of 51
Are there any isolated American groups in Georgia? This subject started to interest me after seeing Deliverance but I couldn't really find much information on it.
post #21 of 51
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Are there any isolated American groups in Georgia? This subject started to interest me after seeing Deliverance but I couldn't really find much information on it.

There seems evidence to suggest there were some in Northeastern Georgia I can't find any names.
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There seems evidence to suggest there were some in Northeastern Georgia I can't find any names.
Yeah...I just googled "isolated American groups" and this thread was like the 5th search result. It's a shame there is so little information available.
post #23 of 51
Snakehandlers fascinate me.
post #24 of 51
I had no idea the Lumbee were multi-ethnic. It makes sense now. The one Lumbee chick I know looks Puerto Rican.
post #25 of 51
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American but not in America, maybe the most interesting community The Confederos. They were confederates who after the Civil War moved to the Coast of Brazil and tried to recreated the Antebellum South. Apparently some parts of their culture is still celebrated there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados Google Book: http://books.google.com/books?id=WRt...page&q&f=false
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Yeah...I just googled "isolated American groups" and this thread was like the 5th search result. It's a shame there is so little information available.

Really it only works well if you use Tri Racial Isolates.
But Gullah/Geechie people still exist and were isolated but not quite like the folks featured in deliverance.
post #27 of 51
I've meet a few non-gulla black people from South Carolina who possessed an accent that was almost West Indian. Do you know anything about that phenomenon?
post #28 of 51
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I've meet a few non-gulla black people from South Carolina who possessed an accent that was almost West Indian. Do you know anything about that phenomenon?

I can't imagine they could be anything but Gullah/Geechie. That is who has the West Indian accents. Many just don't really a specific name for themselves. Unless you are speaking of those who live upland? In places like Ridgeway, those are called upland Geechies.
post #29 of 51
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I can't imagine they could be anything but Gullah/Geechie. That is who has the West Indian accents. Many just don't really a specific name for themselves. Unless you are speaking of those who live upland? In places like Ridgeway, those are called upland Geechies.

The ones I've met, didn't self-identify as either. They could have just been shitting me, though.
post #30 of 51
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The ones I've met, didn't self-identify as either. They could have just been shitting me, though.
Many won't know what you are talking about when you say Gullah, Geechie is definitely the prefered term especially among the youth. random fact, one of Rick Ross nick names is Geechie Luciano... Rick Ross is from Mississippi so not a real Geechie, but Trick Daddy is an actual Geechie.
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I'm a ol' sneaky, ol' freaky, ol' geechy-ass nigga Collard green, neckbone-eatin-ass nigga Always wearin my jeans baggy saggy You know Florida, Georgia, South Cakalaky
I also liked Rick Ross on PacMan lyrics
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100ms,I'm on my Geechie shit! Geechie Luchiano bitch you know I'm Geechie rich!!
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