got my desert pants in today (super fast shipping from Tres Bien). They are definitely not slim, I'd say they fit about the same as my USN and Ghurka pants actually. Thighs measure damn near 13" and hem is 9" (for size 34). Waist fits great and while I was expecting them to be a little more slim, I'm still quite happy with them. Love the Desert pant style, never had a pair before. The small pocket within in a pocket on the left front is perfectly sized for an iPhone so that will come in handy. Fabric is a very nice all-season weight, I have a feeling they'll get a lot of wear come spring time though I could wear them right now if I wanted as well.