Any of you guys have experience with this supplememnt? My cousin swears by it, and has shown GREAT results with no side effects. I know some of you guys tend to be very conservative with these things and would love to hear what you think.
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6/13/11 at 3:48pm
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6/13/11 at 4:19pm
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6/14/11 at 1:23am
just buy creatine monohydrate. it's like $5/lb, and has decades of positive research behind it. not a single one of the newer creatine variations have proven to be more effective than mono, and most, if not all, have been shown to be inferior to mono in independent studies.
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Kre-alkalyn? supplementation has no beneficial effect on creatine-to-creatinine conversion rates. Tallon MJ1 and Child R2 1University of Northumbria, Sport Sciences, Northumbria University, Northumberland Building, Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom, 2Department of Life Sciences, Kingston University, Penrhyn Rd, Kingston-upon-Thames, United Kingdom. DrTallon@CR-Technologies.net All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp. (Billings, MT, USA) claim that Kre-alkalyn? (KA) a ?Buffered? creatine, is 100% stable in stomach acid and does not convert to creatinine. In contrast, they also claim that creatine monohydrate (CM) is highly pH labile with more than 90% of the creatine converting to the degradation product creatinine in stomach acids. To date, no independent or university laboratory has evaluated the stability of KA in stomach acids, assessed its possible conversion to creatinine, or made direct comparisons of acid stability with CM. This study examined whether KA supplementation reduced the rate of creatine conversion to creatinine, relative to commercially available CM (Creapure?). Creatine products were analyzed by an independent commercial laboratory using testing guidelines recommended by the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). Each product was incubated in 900ml of pH 1 HCL at 37? 1oC and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes and immediately analyzed by HPLC (UV) for creatine and creatinine. In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.
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6/15/11 at 3:03pm
What it comes down to is the cost effectiveness of this product. As previously stated, it may or may not be more bioavailable and may or may not break down slower into creatinine. Does it really matter unless you have an entirely disposable income? Consider the cost effectiveness of the product as it is bound to be much more expensive than monohydrate (which is incredibly cheap comparatively). I must say that this battle of cost-effective presents itself in every facet of the industry.
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6/15/11 at 7:16pm
I tried it once a few years back and never really saw any results. It was easier on my stomach than creatine monohydrate through.
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6/15/11 at 11:26pm
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6/16/11 at 12:05pm
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6/16/11 at 2:20pm
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creatine mono is creatine mono
kre-alkalyn is creatine mono bonded to sodium bicarbonate.
so no, not really just the same.
kre-alkalyn is creatine mono bonded to sodium bicarbonate.
so no, not really just the same.
Sigh - in terms of efficacy and results its more or less the same as regular mono. If regular mono doesn't do much for you, then don't expect anything much from KA.
I've tried it myself, and hundreds of reviews on websites such as bodybuilding.com will bear out my point.
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6/16/11 at 4:50pm
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Sigh - in terms of efficacy and results its more or less the same as regular mono. If regular mono doesn't do much for you, then don't expect anything much from KA.
I've tried it myself, and hundreds of reviews on websites such as bodybuilding.com will bear out my point.
I've tried it myself, and hundreds of reviews on websites such as bodybuilding.com will bear out my point.
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Just tried it for the first time yesterday. We'll see. I've never tried any creatine product before, so we'll see how this goes. No stomach issues from it for me though yesterday, so thats good.
What about taking it when I run? I'm thinking no, but I admit I really don't know much about this stuff.
What about taking it when I run? I'm thinking no, but I admit I really don't know much about this stuff.
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