I just said they weren't made in house nothing about hand made or not. The two terms are orthogonal. Things can be hand made in house or partially hand made or machine made.
Outsourced to a factory (Whether that factory hand makes or not) != made in house. That's my understanding of how m.a.+/ccp/augusta/carpe/etc. boots are made. I could be wrong, but numerous sources (Which I can provide if anyone cares) and folks who have had first hand accounts with the designers or other industry figures have confirmed this as well.
Basically a few Italian factories make all these boots and other brands as well. Doesn't mean they all are made by the same machine or of the same quality. Clearly there are different gradings of craftsmanship and also different QC standards, but while Simone/others may do some of the treatment and elements of the production in house.... downplaying the external factory involvement is misleading.
I did say that I think what I believe sinnedk wants to believe that the shoes he thinks are top most tier (CCP/Augusta/m.a.+/Carpe) are all made in house and hand made by the designer themselves in a one man operations with the most rigorous and technically challenging techniques and known to made out of insane materials.
Like docus, I think he, as many others on gear forums, has a pathological need to build some sort of quality hierarchy or mythos where what they are into stands at the top of the pyramid and validates their taste. They fetishize this shit.
So when some retailer, as his unnamed source turned out to be, tells him "Yes it is as you believe Augusta and CCP are made in house!" he seizes on that and parrots it to others because that's what he wants to hear.
It just didn't come across that he was cognizant of the fact that a retailer is not the most reliable source since fundamentally they want to sell you things and may feed into what they think you want to hear to accomplish just that.
Potentially he was aware of that internally, but shrug people react to how you come across and not what you meant in your head. Hence why people are all sandy all the time towards him.
Final wall of text from me on this