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They are both bison - the pn\p is a bit more distressed in the grain and has a slightly heavier wash treatment.
 

post #4607 of 15208
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Originally Posted by Giantsway View Post

No- I paid for the leather (which is nice), the shape (which I like) and the construction. They weren't treated heavily, and just like any other pair of boots that has sat on the shelf for a while unsold, they dried out a bit. Most of the baller boots are untreated in any way leather conditioner would affect. If they're treated, it's by destroying the leather (with whatever implements they use), by scarring it, whatever. But only a few are treated otherwise (waxing, etc), and those I wouldn't treat.

These boots just have a more visible grain on one, but are otherwise untreated (specially). 




They looked the same as the PNP picture- a bit dried, the grain very visible, very stiff. They just dried out on the shelf as they've been out a while and stores don't treat them. 

I think the dry gainy look was what the boots were suppose to look like. Pnp takes pics of items as soon as they arrive so their pics are not of a pair that has been sitting on a shelf.
post #4608 of 15208
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post #4609 of 15208

I'm not altogether sure what we're arguing about- but there are a few things that should be clarified.

 

1. They're the same boot. When mine came, they looked dry and grainy. The right boot, as in PnP's picture, Lazzari's picture, and mine (though less discernable) is more grainy. Lazzari's single boot picture is of the left boot. Mine looked like PNP's picture when it came, and I while I do believe in beating boots to shit, I don't believe in not caring for them. 

 

2. It is possible that the dry/ grainy look is what they're supposed to look like, but I'd caution anyone away from calling them heavily distressed. The grain is obvious, but not ridiculously so.

 

3. I think I was originally arguing that the leather wasn't/ isn't rotten. It isn't. The leather is the same leather. 

 

There may be a real argument here about caring for/ not caring for leather that is part of boots. I fall easily on the side of caring for it with things. This is a discussions I would be interested in having. Whether or not my boots are Bison (they are), or the same boot (they are) or what they are supposed to look like (I think we can agree that part of the point of leather boots is to wear them your way) are discussions I am less interested in. 

post #4610 of 15208

^Is it possible to vibram those split heels? Or any way to protect them from wear and make them less slippery?

post #4611 of 15208
Thread Starter 
Remove the rubber portion and the layer of leather on the heel after the split and add a regular vibram heel.

BTW- Any sz 42's out there ( I will have these available shortly) Cdiem & MA+

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Edited by eckblk - 10/18/12 at 5:55am
post #4612 of 15208
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post

FYI i just confirmed all CCP stuff is made in-house by carol w/assistance of studio staff, same as a1923

No. The only footwear Carol is involved with is the rubber dipped sneakers because he dips them himself cause he thinks his staff don't do it with the right gesture. My source is Carol, your source is the internet.
post #4613 of 15208
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Originally Posted by Giantsway View Post

I'm not altogether sure what we're arguing about- but there are a few things that should be clarified.

1. They're the same boot. When mine came, they looked dry and grainy. The right boot, as in PnP's picture, Lazzari's picture, and mine (though less discernable) is more grainy. Lazzari's single boot picture is of the left boot. Mine looked like PNP's picture when it came, and I while I do believe in beating boots to shit, I don't believe in not caring for them. 

2. It is possible that the dry/ grainy look is what they're supposed to look like, but I'd caution anyone away from calling them heavily distressed. The grain is obvious, but not ridiculously so.

3. I think I was originally arguing that the leather wasn't/ isn't rotten. It isn't. The leather is the same leather. 

There may be a real argument here about caring for/ not caring for leather that is part of boots. I fall easily on the side of caring for it with things. This is a discussions I would be interested in having. Whether or not my boots are Bison (they are), or the same boot (they are) or what they are supposed to look like (I think we can agree that part of the point of leather boots is to wear them your way) are discussions I am less interested in. 

There is no arguing, just discussing. BTW, which season are they from if not AW12?

Whatever the intention behind the treatment, it looked horrible on the shoes I saw. I didn't say the leather was rotten, just that it looked rotten.

I still find it odd that they needed to be conditioned out of the box after paying so much. I have worn both my Layer-0s in Seattle's rain/snow and they have been fine. Oh, and mine were on the shelf for over a year before I got them.
post #4614 of 15208
Thread Starter 
They are AW12- I have the buyers PDF. The boot is available in buffalo and calf, dark grey is the only color.
post #4615 of 15208
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Originally Posted by uzairh View Post


There is no arguing, just discussing. BTW, which season are they from if not AW12?
Whatever the intention behind the treatment, it looked horrible on the shoes I saw. I didn't say the leather was rotten, just that it looked rotten.
I still find it odd that they needed to be conditioned out of the box after paying so much. I have worn both my Layer-0s in Seattle's rain/snow and they have been fine. Oh, and mine were on the shelf for over a year before I got them.

 

It sounds like I was wrong about the season- I thought I'd seen them on PNP before AW12 stuff was generally up. Sounds like I was wrong. 

 

Out of curiosity, can you post any pictures of the worn in Layer-0's? I'd love to see them. Also, and in a question more relevant to those of us in the emerald city... why do you get vibrams/ resoles done? I've only found 1 decent place...


Edited by Giantsway - 10/18/12 at 11:02am
post #4616 of 15208

I read that in Guidi's it's best to go up one or in the case of horse leather even two sizes. 

Is this only for the back zipper ones or also for the laced up boots?

Thanks in advance for your help.

post #4617 of 15208
Up 1 on backzips and 1-2 on laced, depending.
post #4618 of 15208
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

No. The only footwear Carol is involved with is the rubber dipped sneakers because he dips them himself cause he thinks his staff don't do it with the right gesture. My source is Carol, your source is the internet.

so who makes his shoes? is it relatively hand made by "assistants"
post #4619 of 15208
sold my guidis

looking to move towards either cdiem or ccp tornado

here's my outfit

attachment coat
bbs waxed J pants
ro intarsia high neck
will be getting a Paul Harnden blazer in the near future too , so i want my boots to fit all these aesthetic. I am not a baller so just a pair of boots if enough for me biggrin.giffoo.gif

what boots will fit my aesthethic since cdiem has a round toebox and ccp tornado being pointier. I will be looking to wear this to work too on a day to day basis

was loooking at s23m cdiem
Edited by chiggah - 10/18/12 at 1:32pm
post #4620 of 15208
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post

so who makes his shoes? is it relatively hand made by "assistants"

I thought you knew, man.

@Chiggah: Look at Attachment and Viridi-Anne boots too, IMO
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