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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post

out of curiosity did you happen to see any other augustas or even buttero models?

Nothing is on sale yet.

They always carry Buttero on the 8th floor, but no clue what models.

Their Augusta collection is as big as I've ever seen it, they have like 9 different models right now. You can see some online. Off the top of my head: high-top laceless sneaker with straps (in a deep almost-black purple), black buffalo sneakers with white soles, the front-zip boots, a white boots, some black ankle boots, a black almost knee-high height boot, scarred half-zip on each side black bot. Most of these are probably on the website.
post #3227 of 12931
Some Guidi's from Rakuten in reverse stag.. never seen this color before. Not bad if you don't mind paying $2k plus shipping from Japan..

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BTW.. what's with all these high end brands calling suede "reverse"? Guess they figure it sounds cooler than suede..
post #3228 of 12931
Also, some in dark brown:

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post #3229 of 12931
neither of those colour choices make sense on that boot IMO.
post #3230 of 12931
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tellure View Post

Some Guidi's from Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Rakuten in reverse stag.. never seen this color before. Not bad if you don't mind paying $2k plus shipping from Japan..
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BTW.. what's with all these high end brands calling suede "reverse"? Guess they figure it sounds cooler than suede..

Because they are actually using reverse side of the leather (flesh side)- suede is entirely something else
post #3231 of 12931
Haha. Ya those "high end" brands ate so ridiculous. Tell us more about this thing you call suede.
post #3232 of 12931
Thread Starter 
Suede the skin side of leather that is then buffed so it has nap

Anybody else want to chime in on this? Hendrix?
post #3233 of 12931
Excuse my ignorance I guess.. I thought suede was the flesh side of the leather. (Wisegeek.com: "Generally, suede is created from either the inner split or the flesh split of a piece of leather.").

Freedictionary:

suede [sweɪd]
n
(Clothing, Personal Arts & Crafts / Tanning)
a. a leather finished with a fine velvet-like nap, usually on the flesh side of the skin or hide, produced by abrasive action

Guess it can be the flesh side, but not always?

Irvingtanning.com:

Suede: Split leather that has been buffed and brushed to create a fuzzy surface feel.

Split leather: Leather made from the lower (inner or flesh side) layers of a hide that have been split away from the upper, or grain, layers. Split leather is more fragile than side leather or full-grain leather, and is typically used in the form of suede.

Etherington & Roberts Dictionary:

A term taken from the French, "gants de Suède" (Swedish gloves), and applied to a leather finished on the flesh side by buffering so as to raise a velvet-like nap. The typical suede leather is produced from the smaller skins, such as calfskin, kidskin, lambskin and goatskin, although cowhide has also been used.

The nap is produced by buffing or wheeling the surface on the flesh side, or the split side of flesh splits; velvet suedes, however, are buffed on the grain side.


Maybe what they mean by "reverse" is that they use the flesh side of a full-grain (non-split) hide? Which would be more expensive than typical suede which is made from the flesh side of a split hide (according to most definitions it seems).
post #3234 of 12931
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Originally Posted by tellure View Post

Excuse my ignorance I guess.. I thought suede was the flesh side of the leather. (Wisegeek.com: "Generally, suede is created from either the inner split or the flesh split of a piece of leather.").
Freedictionary:
suede [sweɪd]
n
(Clothing, Personal Arts & Crafts / Tanning)
a. a leather finished with a fine velvet-like nap, usually on the flesh side of the skin or hide, produced by abrasive action
Guess it can be the flesh side, but not always?
Irvingtanning.com:
Suede: Split leather that has been buffed and brushed to create a fuzzy surface feel.
Split leather: Leather made from the lower (inner or flesh side) layers of a hide that have been split away from the upper, or grain, layers. Split leather is more fragile than side leather or full-grain leather, and is typically used in the form of suede.
Etherington & Roberts Dictionary:
A term taken from the French, "gants de Suède" (Swedish gloves), and applied to a leather finished on the flesh side by buffering so as to raise a velvet-like nap. The typical suede leather is produced from the smaller skins, such as calfskin, kidskin, lambskin and goatskin, although cowhide has also been used.
The nap is produced by buffing or wheeling the surface on the flesh side, or the split side of flesh splits; velvet suedes, however, are buffed on the grain side.
Maybe what they mean by "reverse" is that they use the flesh side of a full-grain (non-split) hide? Which would be more expensive than typical suede which is made from the flesh side of a split hide (according to most definitions it seems).

that sounds correct

see http://www.saddlebackleather.com/Leather-101
post #3235 of 12931
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Originally Posted by tellure View Post

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Maybe what they mean by "reverse" is that they use the flesh side of a full-grain (non-split) hide? Which would be more expensive than typical suede which is made from the flesh side of a split hide (according to most definitions it seems).
"typical" suede
from "typical" makers
eg trickers
c&j, church
etc -
traditional shoemakers
is reverse side

i don;t know
if 'typical' sw&d
makers use split
although from some of
the images
i wouldn't be
surprised
post #3236 of 12931
That saddleback page is great, lots of good info. I found this diagram particularly interesting:

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post #3237 of 12931
also addressed her in this thread "Is Suede The Same As Reversed Leather?" http://www.styleforum.net/t/200254/is-suede-the-same-as-reversed-leather
post #3238 of 12931
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

neither of those colour choices make sense on that boot IMO.

Yeah they seem to lose a lot of the edgy Guidi style in those colors/leathers. Here are some fit pics on the lighter one.. could almost be a pair of Clark's or something in the first shot

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post #3239 of 12931
Thread Starter 
A very good friend of mine- loves the non-traditional Guidi colors, here are 2 of his most recent special orders

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Edited by eckblk - 5/27/12 at 3:13pm
post #3240 of 12931
Like the first one.

I like this one for my future purchase lol
http://www.ln-cc.com/invt/gui0108002blk
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