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post #2221 of 15111
i think it's just best to find the brands that suit every individual aesthetically. just wear our boots and look good. who cares about how labels are ripping off each other.
post #2222 of 15111
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Originally Posted by chiggah View Post

I am having a hard time deciding a 788SZ and a 988S. I plan to vibram them to keep them protected though but if i vibram the 788SZ, its gonna be too high since its double heel already
Maybe someone can shed some light on this. Not sure if i should get the 788SZ and not vibram at all or 988S and vibram it
The double heel = more life is nice though..
788sz http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZsRJ5lXHH30/T4xAGtg1SXI/AAAAAAAACPg/rmxhE9qoJgY/s1600/IMG_5302.jpg
988S http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_2TinMT3G-0/T4xAhMmIiMI/AAAAAAAACP4/7bwubkHqbTY/s1600/IMG_5295.jpg

vibram the 988s and you will be happy
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

Either of those are gonna last for years without a vibram. You won't even need to consider reheeling for a good couple of years.
Durability is not really a factor here, just buy what you think looks better.

resoling a leather sole vs a vibram sole is a a bit more expensive i think,

another reason to vibram, is that a cobbler will have to take off the original leather sole of the boot and mess with original sole by guidi (unless you get guidi to resole). Its much easier to take off a vibram sole and stick on a new one.
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Originally Posted by eckblk View Post

before anyone says that cdiem just made traditional, high quality boots, take a look at the overall imagine they projected, especially through altieri's lines.
This +1000
The Guidi story is interesting- I wonder how much is just speculation and how much is true.

Lets bring this back from where this conversation started which is WJK. The point was that WJK while good quality isnt doing anything out of the ordinary, CD was doing something different and experimental which led to MA+/Augusta being more creative. Altieri did lay the foundation. Guidi decided to make shoes because it was a natural step, although their boots lack structure, its a cool look but not creative in the least. Currently its CCP/MA+/Augusta that are actually doing something creative which is why brands like WJK are making waves in Japan but not the world. Oh and a special mention to Layer-0 that is coming up with a lot of cool designs.

PS: All i was trying to find out about WJK was the quality. People go hung up in me saying the obvious that they imitate CD.
post #2223 of 15111
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

because fashion isn't biology. in fashion, there are the trendsetters and then there are the followers. if someone revolutionizes the industry before you, and you follow in its footsteps, you're a bit too late to the game to be revolutionary.

I don't particularly care whether they're "revolutionary" or not, that shouldn't grant them some type of "moral patent" over other brands (who are copying them or not).
Let's face it. They're selling high end boots whose selling point is their quality and design. It is therefore up to them to differentiate themselves, not up to everyone else to work around them. That is the best thing about fashion - you can't pull a drug company and do whatever you want because you have the patent. There is no copyright, and for a very good reason. This is why trends occur. It allows for refinement of ideas.

Moreover, if you go to Italy you will see that upturned toes are present in lots and lots of shoes and boots, and this likely existed before CDiem. So did distressed boots. Do you not think it possible that other brands joined these ideas? My shoemaker knows absolutely nothing about Cdiem or Guidi but he makes some pretty similar derbies, backzips and sidezips.

Whether CDiem did revolutionise this or not, it doesn't give them some special standing above everyone else. If other shoes are of equally good design (most are not, and that's the amazing thing about CDiem) then they also deserve credit. It's harder than you think to copy something.
post #2224 of 15111
Thread Starter 
What is everyone talking about here? CDiem boots and shoes or Altieri's entire body of work (Continues Collection: Carpe Diem, LMaltieri, Linea, Sartoria, etc....)?

As for WJK quality- I heard was very good at first and as quality dropped, Jun Hashimoto left and formed "Jun Hashimoto". There was supposedly an agreement with Altieri towards the end of CDiem that allow Jun to use specific Cdiem leathers and manufacture specific models- this is why you keep seeing S23 and S21.

Just to be clear there are Jun Hashimoto boots and WJK boots- 2 different lines. I believe nicelynice can chime in as I believe he handled both in detail.
post #2225 of 15111
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Originally Posted by eckblk View Post

What is everyone talking about here? CDiem boots and shoes or Altieri's entire body of work (Continues Collection: Carpe Diem, LMaltieri, Linea, Sartoria, etc....)?
As for WJK quality- I heard was very good at first and as quality dropped, Jun Hashimoto left and formed "Jun Hashimoto". There was supposedly an agreement with Altieri towards the end of CDiem that allow Jun to use specific Cdiem leathers and manufacture specific models- this is why you keep seeing S23 and S21.

Just to be clear there Jun Hashimoto boots and WJK boots. I believe nicelynice can chime in as I believe he handled both in detail.

well it started out with me questioning the quality of WJK boots and people got all worked up over me asking whether WJK is just impersonating CD. These were questions not critiques and then everyone started questioning and talking about shoe trends...

anyone got some pics to post?
post #2226 of 15111
Thread Starter 
From the group buy which was mentioned a few pages back. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif


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post #2227 of 15111
Eck, those boots are beautiful but I hate lace-ups that tall because they take about five minutes to get on my feet

Less talk more boots
KK Attachment Guidi 1.8mm one piece

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Looks like this with a half year of wear, dope

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Another season, different Guidi 1.8mm leather

three months
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one year
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post #2228 of 15111
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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

Eck, those boots are beautiful but I hate lace-ups that tall because they take about five minutes to get on my feet

no they dont man, takes a sec
post #2229 of 15111
Thread Starter 
NN- Attachment boots looks really good. How is sizing with most of the Japanese brands? I still want the devoa side zip from SS12.

More pics-

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post #2230 of 15111
FYI guys,

http://stylezeitgeist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14306
post #2231 of 15111
Jun Hashimoto, Devoa, Attachment all fit fairly true to size, I'm a 7 CCP, 8 Augusta, 43 Guidi, 41-42 Carpe, and I fit a 42 across all three.

btw, can anyone ID these augusta?

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post #2232 of 15111
have you tried margiela boots? if so, what size are you there? 42 as well? this will help me greatly because there aren't any retailers of these brands where I live (or atleast that I am aware of) so I'd have to purchase online. I dont wan't to get burned so a reference point would be advantageous.
post #2233 of 15111
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Originally Posted by eckblk View Post

I still want the devoa side zip from SS12.

I sought these out determined to fall in love with them, and did until I actually tried walking in them.

They have a spring built into the sole. Which wasn't particularly obstructive in terms of actual movement, it was pretty fluid, but it came off unnatural and in any case would invariably be the first thing to break and need servicing if you're the type of person who actually buys boots to last 5+ years.

It's kind of a shame. If you're not offended by the somewhat clog-y shape, Devoa footwear tends to be exceptional.
post #2234 of 15111
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

Jun Hashimoto, Devoa, Attachment all fit fairly true to size, I'm a 7 CCP, 8 Augusta, 43 Guidi, 41-42 Carpe, and I fit a 42 across all three.
btw, can anyone ID these augusta? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Anymore pics of the Augusta? I have no idea

BTW-
I got through to CDG Aoyama- m_moria will start at 300k yen ffffuuuu.gif. I realize that anything from Italy in JP gets marked up but that is insane. I noticed new Guidi in JP can run up to 145k yen. ouch!
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Originally Posted by modalsaliency View Post

I sought these out determined to fall in love with them, and did until I actually tried walking in them.
They have a spring built into the sole. Which wasn't particularly obstructive in terms of actual movement, it was pretty fluid, but it came off unnatural and in any case would invariably be the first thing to break and need servicing if you're the type of person who actually buys boots to last 5+ years.
It's kind of a shame. If you're not offended by the somewhat clog-y shape, Devoa footwear tends to be exceptional.

Thanks- I will be avoiding them now for sure.
Edited by eckblk - 4/19/12 at 10:33am
post #2235 of 15111
Augusta reverse calf backzips icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

sorry for the quick pics, can do better later
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P1120202 by sinnedk, on Flickr
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