I suppose that it's the bolded part that I find to be untrue, and frankly, besides the point. MA+ quality is not great if you look at it as construction, just as an example. A random Chinese factory could do better. In fact, if you look at basic metrics of "quality" like consistency between garments, the proper tension in the stitching, etc... MA+ is probably quite low on the list. The construction of the garments, in particular, is stone aged. The boots are cool, but the similarly lack much refinement of technique. Does this detract from MA+ boots? I would argue "No", because MA+ is not build on excellent craftsmanship, just as chantilly lace is not built for durability.
My point is that discussions of "quality" are essentially inconsequential here. You value the product and the creative process. Those are of such high importance that they drown out any justification based on "quality", for the most part. Perhaps we are talking at cross purposes.
See i have had a good experience with most of my things footwear related so far so its hard for me to say that the quality is not part of it. I was looking for a well made zip boot, thick leather and built to last. I now have CCP, A1923, L0 and MA+, i really have not had any problems. I've heard horror stories but mine isn't one of em. Then again i don't hike in mine and do take care of things well. By no means do i baby anything.
I started out on SF with Alden, Trickers, C&J, AF, Carmina. Then i started wanting some cool zip boots. I tried varvatos, shoto, buttero , vaz rajan. Quickly i noticed that the construction and leather on shoto was sub par. varvatos became boring quick. Buttero i vouch for and is great, although i seldom wear it now.
My first exprience with a1923/ma+/guidi was going to archive and trying some on circa 2010. Everything had thick leather and was built pretty solid. Hence, i really wanted a pair of some "baller" boots. I spent months researching and looking but couldn't really get exactly what i want. Then i got a chance to get my first pair of a1923 in reverse calf. Boots had thick leather, tough sole. I remember Moo and i discussing how they were built like rocks.
I wore the backzips for a bit and then got kinda bored of them. They had a very bubbly toe box which i wasn't a fan of. These were ss12 backzips from a1923. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Eck and I pm a bit where we had a lot of talk about the mentioned brands and he introduced me to Tassos. At that point i have only seen some tornados and wasn't as familiar with CCP. I decided to take a plunge and picked up sbuc-ptc in color 10 tornados. One of my best purchases because i still wear them to this day and am wearing today. Boot was worn super hard because it was my only baller boot after i sold the a1923 backzip.
I don't think i picked anything up significant bootwise until the MA+ backzip in Dec 2014. I wore those super hard as well because i liked how they look with the folds better than new.
Anyways my point is that i have various boots to wear but the 2 i wore super hard haven't had any issues. As of late i did this with my a1923 dual zips and again quality is fine. However, that doesn't mean quality is better then CM brands. You can get better good quality shoes for cheaper sure. But you won't get well built zip boots from other makers in various interesting leathers. You will get some great cap toe lace ups which everyone does. Just look at r/goodyearwelt, every boot is a fucking captoe lace up...
You come to these brands to get out of "boring" and as Fok said get into experimental.