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Originally Posted by oulipien View Post

There's also the "best of B&S" thread in CM, which is pretty useful. I think someone was doing SWD posts there for ... like a week, and then stopped, which is too bad.

oh that sucks, i wish someone posted sw&d stuff in there
post #20972 of 22279

I will forewarn those of you who do not want to read any more about my Guidi boot selection process to scroll down and skip this post.

 

Also even more critical, I have included a few photos where I pulled up my jeans to fully expose the boots and exposed my leg in an alluring way.  Be warned!  :bounce2:

 

Today I visited a store and spent at least an hour trying on 3 different Guidi boots that I've been drooling over.

 

Guidi 988: mid-height, single heal, normal shaft, black full-grain horsehide

 

Really like the 988, what amazing leather feel and looks awesome with the little wrinkles.  Might boost the heal and forefoot a little bit when installing the vibram.  Might also go for 989 vs 988 to have it be a bit higher!  More of a good thing is a better thing?

 

Guidi 788ZS: mid-height, double heal, slim shaft, black full-grain horsehide

 

The 788ZS looks very nice.  More styled looking than the 988.  This photo really shows the slim shaft, note that it is tight on my leg.  I really like how this looks when I don't have pants stuffed into the boot and it fits so perfectly against my leg, but herein lies the problem with the slim shaft.  Its really too tight to stuff any normal pants inside, unless you are wearing stretch pants.  I stuffed my pants in and it was sketchy.  Just zero room in the shaft.  And if you leave your pants out of the boot then they cover the shaft so it doesn't make a difference if its slim or normal.  The only way the slim shaft makes sense is if you wear the boot with shorts, which isn't my plan.  I went into this thinking slimmer shaft is better but I think I've changed my mind.

 

Guidi 986: ankle-height, single heal, normal shaft, lavendar full-grain horsehide

 

This year's lavender special issue is a really beautiful color and these photos don't capture it.  I'm soooooo tempted to pick one up.  Soon lavender will be gone!  The horror.  Maybe I need a 989 black tall boot and a 986 lavender short boot?

 

Side by side comparison of 788ZS and 988:

 

You can see in the comparison photo above the double heal and thicker sole on the left 788ZS.  You can also see the major difference in the toe as the 788ZS has a more rounded and thick toe box, turned upward slightly.  After much time spent going back and forth between the two boots, I prefer the thinner toe of the 988 over the thicker toe of the 788ZS.  Unfortunately I prefer the double heal of the 788ZS over the single heal of the 988, but this is more easily changed as I plan to have vibram installed anyway so the cobbler can add 0.5" to the heal and another layer to the front area to mostly match the bottom of the 788ZS while keeping the more sleek toe box of the 988.

 

Side by side comparison of 988 and 986:

 

These two boots, the 988 and 986, have exactly the same toe shape, heal, sole, and leather type.  Only differences are the black vs lavender color, and the height as you can see in this photo.  I'm seriously tempted by the lavender 986 in addition to my final selection for a black rear zip tall boot.  Beautiful color and leather feel.  Love them.  This Guidi full grain horsehide is the most nice feeling shoe leather I've ever touched.  These boots feel like crazy supple leather socks when worn.  Unique.

 

Regarding size:  I wear 10 or 43 in most everything.  A few brands I'll end up 9.5 or 10.5.  I managed to squeeze into a 43 Guidi 988 but it was a slow and laborious process.  My toes were pretty mashed and only the softness of the leather was allowing them to fit.  I guess its possible they could have stretched out after a few hours of wear but after 10 minutes I gave up on the 43.  I think 43.5 would be perfect for me in Guidi but since they don't make half sizes I just have to go with 44.  No way could I wear a 45 without it being sloppy loose.  Those of you recommending to size up by 1 on the rear zips are correct.

 

I didn't quite complete my selection so I still have not purchased.  A bit more consideration of the data . . .

post #20973 of 22279
lol, great post - glad you're having fun trying these on!

would definitely recommend very strongly against tucking jeans into Guidi boots, unless you wear skinnier stretch denim [as you yourself suggest].

i find the tucked jeans look works best with proper military styled boots - otherwise a nice cropped [or rolled] jean and/or trouser will show off your glorious leather footwear without creating a "forced" and/or "messy" aesthetic.

the already loose opening of the 988 will stretch even further, hence all the comments you'll read across the internets about "limp sock syndrome" [or something to that effect].

even the slimmer shaft of the 788zs will stretch out, and become frustratingly loose - it's almost as bad as rick owens double layer t-shirts turning into dresses [trust me on this].

the f.g. horse leather used stretches especially much, so just keep that in mind.

your top-down photo of the profile of the 788zs really points out the differences in proportions though, double thick heel, double thick front sole - my personal favourite!

all in all though, the 988 is a classic item, and a great entry point for guidi as a whole.
post #20974 of 22279
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

For SWD, it's kosher to do it judiciously, for CM, not at all.  The cultures are pretty different.  However, the mods are not fully accustomed to this yet, so I'm sorry if it's a little inconsistent. They do through the mod queue, which gets really long, and they apply our criteria to it.  To have to to distinguish between SWD and CM is just an extra step that is easily missed.

I like those - the color looks really nice - but for me, unlike for a lot of you guys, it's hard to want a really upturned toe.  I am not into the sleek and elegant look of CM footwear, but I'm not really into the bulbous workwear look that is beloved here, either.  For me, guidi, with a toebox, represents a happy medium in which I am comfortable, but of course, I realize that I am perhaps in the minority.

Cheers,

Fok.

Thanks for the explanation! Makes a lot more sense now. And I'm totally with you on the bulbous upturned toeboxes.. I can appreciate the aesthetic but it's not for me. Maybe I'll finally find some of the older A1923's that fit me and I can afford. Right now I'm surviving on a pair of WJK's that I quite like the quality and silhouette of:

post #20975 of 22279
Agree with charles - glad you're having fun with this!! I really love the double-stack of the 788zs. Really gives it a unique look, and adds a bit more heft - without it, the boots can end up looking a bit like a "leather sock." Not necessarily a bad thing, but I like the balance it gives to the soft uppers. That said, that lavender is beautiful. Honestly, can't go wrong with any of those!! Making me want a new pair of Guidi boots..
post #20976 of 22279
It's great to share the excitement of a newbie smile.gif

I like the look of the 988 on you
7 series looks a little feminine to me, and the pair I owned felt unbalanced when wearing them (perhaps because I'm not used to high heels)

But you know your own style

By the way I'm sure you could order lavender in whatever model and leather you like from holger pnp etc


Have you thought about the reversed leathers ? Reverse bison looks awesome : very hairy


And are you committed to zip boots?
Because guidi reversed cordovan is their best leather
post #20977 of 22279
Speaking of Guidi, anyone have experience with this model?
Chelsea boot with almond-shaped toebox. Thinking of picking up a pair for work..

post #20978 of 22279

I would not add .5 to a 988 heel. Everything about that soft boot is setup for a low profile. If you want the heel you should just get the 7 series. I think the reason the toebox is more substantial on the 7 is to support your foot since the extra heel throws the balance so far forward. If you have a cobbler stack up a 988 heel then your toes will constantly be mushing towards the front edge of soft rounded toebox. You might also look into MA+ backzips if you're set on having more heel. They have folds but are overall much more structured and the bubble toe balances the heel stack out for an overall chunkier look. 

 

Here are my MA+ bisons next to silver painted soft horse 988 slim shaft. 

 

Note the difference in structure even though I've been wearing the MA+ a couple times a week for a year and the Guidi I've work about 3 times total. 

post #20979 of 22279
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Originally Posted by mountainman3520 View Post


Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I will forewarn those of you who do not want to read any more about my Guidi boot selection process to scroll down and skip this post.

Also even more critical, I have included a few photos where I pulled up my jeans to fully expose the boots and exposed my leg in an alluring way.  Be warned!  bounce2.gif

Today I visited a store and spent at least an hour trying on 3 different Guidi boots that I've been drooling over.

Guidi 988: mid-height, single heal, normal shaft, black full-grain horsehide







Really like the 988, what amazing leather feel and looks awesome with the little wrinkles.  Might boost the heal and forefoot a little bit when installing the vibram.  Might also go for 989 vs 988 to have it be a bit higher!  More of a good thing is a better thing?

Guidi 788ZS: mid-height, double heal, slim shaft, black full-grain horsehide





The 788ZS looks very nice.  More styled looking than the 988.  This photo really shows the slim shaft, note that it is tight on my leg.  I really like how this looks when I don't have pants stuffed into the boot and it fits so perfectly against my leg, but herein lies the problem with the slim shaft.  Its really too tight to stuff any normal pants inside, unless you are wearing stretch pants.  I stuffed my pants in and it was sketchy.  Just zero room in the shaft.  And if you leave your pants out of the boot then they cover the shaft so it doesn't make a difference if its slim or normal.  The only way the slim shaft makes sense is if you wear the boot with shorts, which isn't my plan.  I went into this thinking slimmer shaft is better but I think I've changed my mind.

Guidi 986: ankle-height, single heal, normal shaft, lavendar full-grain horsehide







This year's lavender special issue is a really beautiful color and these photos don't capture it.  I'm soooooo tempted to pick one up.  Soon lavender will be gone!  The horror.  Maybe I need a 989 black tall boot and a 986 lavender short boot?

Side by side comparison of 788ZS and 988:



You can see in the comparison photo above the double heal and thicker sole on the left 788ZS.  You can also see the major difference in the toe as the 788ZS has a more rounded and thick toe box, turned upward slightly.  After much time spent going back and forth between the two boots, I prefer the thinner toe of the 988 over the thicker toe of the 788ZS.  Unfortunately I prefer the double heal of the 788ZS over the single heal of the 988, but this is more easily changed as I plan to have vibram installed anyway so the cobbler can add 0.5" to the heal and another layer to the front area to mostly match the bottom of the 788ZS while keeping the more sleek toe box of the 988.

Side by side comparison of 988 and 986:



These two boots, the 988 and 986, have exactly the same toe shape, heal, sole, and leather type.  Only differences are the black vs lavender color, and the height as you can see in this photo.  I'm seriously tempted by the lavender 986 in addition to my final selection for a black rear zip tall boot.  Beautiful color and leather feel.  Love them.  This Guidi full grain horsehide is the most nice feeling shoe leather I've ever touched.  These boots feel like crazy supple leather socks when worn.  Unique.

Regarding size:  I wear 10 or 43 in most everything.  A few brands I'll end up 9.5 or 10.5.  I managed to squeeze into a 43 Guidi 988 but it was a slow and laborious process.  My toes were pretty mashed and only the softness of the leather was allowing them to fit.  I guess its possible they could have stretched out after a few hours of wear but after 10 minutes I gave up on the 43.  I think 43.5 would be perfect for me in Guidi but since they don't make half sizes I just have to go with 44.  No way could I wear a 45 without it being sloppy loose.  Those of you recommending to size up by 1 on the rear zips are correct.

I didn't quite complete my selection so I still have not purchased.  A bit more consideration of the data . . .

I enjoyed reading this. How did archive feel about all the pics, they cool about it all?

I agree with everything Graham said (CuriousCharles). Like NN and CC, i like the 788zs the most and i think you can live without adding vibram to those, maybe thin top but even then no need. Just avoid the MS version the soft toe cap will be too much sock syndrome. I think both 788z and 988 looked good on you and are a good entry point. I'd avoid the lavender if this is your first boot because its not as versatile and easy to wear as black. I know everyone fixates on black in this thread and thats the go to. I do as well. However, i am not fixated on black as much since i have the essentials of my footwear in black. I do like black with scarring/graining more than smooth black.

Anyways, if you can wait and do a special order then you can get exactly what you want. you aren't making a mistake either way you go and i'd suspect you will have multiple guidi in the next few months/years. Start with basics and build up from there....
post #20980 of 22279
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Originally Posted by psydle View Post

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I would not add .5 to a 988 heel. Everything about that soft boot is setup for a low profile. If you want the heel you should just get the 7 series. I think the reason the toebox is more substantial on the 7 is to support your foot since the extra heel throws the balance so far forward. If you have a cobbler stack up a 988 heel then your toes will constantly be mushing towards the front edge of soft rounded toebox. You might also look into MA+ backzips if you're set on having more heel. They have folds but are overall much more structured and the bubble toe balances the heel stack out for an overall chunkier look. 

Here are my MA+ bisons next to silver painted soft horse 988 slim shaft. 



Note the difference in structure even though I've been wearing the MA+ a couple times a week for a year and the Guidi I've work about 3 times total. 

i suggested MA+ as well but he really wants the slim look of guidi and mentioned he doesn't like the bubbly toe boxes. But i do agree with you.
post #20981 of 22279
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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

Speaking of Guidi, anyone have experience with this model?
Chelsea boot with almond-shaped toebox. Thinking of picking up a pair for work..
  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

What do you typically wear to work now? Is it mostly the almond toe that works better for your office attire? The vented sides of the chelsea style seem at odds with the handmade qualities that make Guidi great. That could just be me though, since chelsea boots are so far outside of my personal taste. 

post #20982 of 22279
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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

Speaking of Guidi, anyone have experience with this model?
Chelsea boot with almond-shaped toebox. Thinking of picking up a pair for work..


while i understand that you need to constantly take your shoes off, i don't think the chelseas are the answer. they're really ugly
post #20983 of 22279
damnit all this talk of guidi makes me want a pair of 788zs FML
post #20984 of 22279
@mountainman3520

Hide-M has the below, non slim shaft based on what has been said



MODEL: BACK ZIP BOOT, 4CM HEEL, DOUBLE SOLE
CODE: 788Z
COLOR: BLACK
LEATHER: HORSE FULL GRAIN
post #20985 of 22279
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post

i like the 788zs the most and i think you can live without adding vibram to those, maybe thin top but even then no need

 

 

Why no vibram, do they have some special leather heel or sole that doesn't wear down?

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