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Just email Guidi. They have really good cs from my experience. Seems like one of your derby's is missing a "toe puff".
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Just email Guidi. They have really good from my experience. Seems like one of your derby's is missing a "toe puff".

 

Thanks, I will try that. Thought they were hard to get in touch with.

post #20898 of 22296
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Did you explain to Holger that it is not due to the dye hardening the leather but an actual toe puff missing? He might be misunderstading you. I'm sure he or Guidi will sort it out.
Edited by eckblk - 4/7/16 at 9:44am
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I see, but anyway, according to Holger it's totally normal:

 

'It is normal. Duo to the piece dyed process i see a lot of this similar things. I sell guidi since almost 5 years and this is normal.

 
My biggest problem now is, i can not go to GUIDI with this "problem" because it is not a problem. What do we do now? I want help, but difficult. please advice ...'

 

I don't want to blame Holger, but this is pretty bullshit. It sucks so much if I spent €790 for one shoe with structured toe, one shoe with non-structured toe - right now it looks like I'm just fucked and neither Holger or Guidi can/want to help.

Well, if one toe is in fact missing the salpa (just for future reference, that is the term for the leather piece that shapes the toe box), and the other is not, that is NOT normal.  On the other hand, if the salpa was merely crushed, then it may be perfectly normal.  If you reach into the shoe, you will be able to tell, merely from the thickness, whether one toe box is actually structurally different.

 

FWIW, Guidi MTO often have some minor issues, ime.  Usually nothing major, but certainly, that for any other company, might have been rejected as seconds by a traditional company.  However, I'm guessing that they figure that the object dyeing makes the shoe rather distressed anyway.  For example, I have a pair of MTO 017 that are great, but on the sole, it's clear that some one mishandled the stitching machine at some point during the stitching of the sole onto the upper, as there is a line of pin prick holes (not deep, but definitly there) that go across the sole).  It's definitely NOT a "feature". 

 

I've seen this on other Guidi boots as well, though usually on MTOs, and less on production models.

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I told him that one seems to have a "toe cap" and the other not... I don't know if that means the same thing as "toe puff", but I sent images too and an explanation of what happens when you press down on the toe area. 

 

You are reassuring me, thank you. I've been a little panicky. :)


Edited by Benjaminba - 4/7/16 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by Benjaminba View Post

I told him that one seems to have a "toe cap" and the other not... I don't know if that means the same thing as "toe puff", but I sent images too and an explanation of what happens when you press down on the toe area. 

You are reassuring me, thank you. I've been a little panicky. smile.gif

Good luck! Please keep us informed.
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slight change of topic, i am staring to consider a derby and am wondering what some thoughts are on the below 3 choices. I don't want a rounded toe (ma+/L0 are out), prefer something sleek that if i want to i can wear with a suit to a formal event. What would work best? I wouldn't get anything scarred or crazy...


guidi

 

The guidis actually look very oxford-like; is there some subtle (or unsubtle!) detail/distinction I'm missing?

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The guidis actually look very oxford-like; is there some subtle (or unsubtle!) detail/distinction I'm missing?

nope they were even referred to as the business derby... i don't own any guidi but always like what they do, maybe this is my entry point... but but but a1923/ccp drool.gif
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The guidis actually look very oxford-like; is there some subtle (or unsubtle!) detail/distinction I'm missing?

It's a "wholecut", but it's actually more open laced then most wholecuts.  I am not sure that the traditional naming conventions can always be applied to this and several other models.

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1 of 1 translucent BBS just popped up on that G site. 

 

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It's a "wholecut", but it's actually more open laced then most wholecuts.  I am not sure that the traditional naming conventions can always be applied to this and several other models.

 

Yah, I got a 10sei0otto wholecut that was referred to as a "derby" but afaict there's nothing derby-like at all about it. Not super hung up on the nomenclature, just find it somewhat odd. With the ma+ double fold you can see how it's kind of riffing on the derby as a concept b/c of the way the folds work, but with some of the things that get called derbies I just have no idea.

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on that G site. 

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Originally Posted by oulipien View Post
 

 

Yah, I got a 10sei0otto wholecut that was referred to as a "derby" but afaict there's nothing derby-like at all about it. Not super hung up on the nomenclature, just find it somewhat odd. With the ma+ double fold you can see how it's kind of riffing on the derby as a concept b/c of the way the folds work, but with some of the things that get called derbies I just have no idea.

 

Derby just refers to the construction for the lace holes. If there's a flap, it's a derby. If not, it's an oxford.

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I think they'd look swell with a pair of white leather moto pants

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