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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

its been out for 2-3 years why the sudden obsession now

I should repost the SF baller footwear hype-cycle graph

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It's primarily when certain users buy into a designer or particular piece. Examples of it happening are with A1923, most prominently the double zip fever, then Layer-0 had a short lived burst, and now M_Moria is the new must have.
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Just spotted my first pair of M moria "in the wild," a pair of green derbies paired with a black Devoa suit. Wow, that guy looked cool
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It's also probably because of the massive variance in quality of the product you receive, in terms of finish, sizing and leather, of brands like a1923 and to a certain extent CCP.
When people spend the money we spend on goods, you expect to at least get what you think you will get. That's definitely not the case with a1923 (and I'm talking from years of experience). With Moria you get exactly what you order. There are no strange colour issues (like aubergine being the new black), crippling creases that make your toes bleed or odd left vs right boots. Also I'm somewhat over spending thousands of pounds to wear something that looks like I found it on the back of a dumpster truck. I still own A1923, but find more and more that the newer leather he uses is sub-par, and the shape just doesn't do it for me. It's almost like I feel he's got a bit lazy. The new double zips for example are nowhere near as nice as the older pairs, and I hate the oiled horse leather he now uses....it just feels cheap.
With Moria at least I know I'm paying for the highest quality product made by somebody who actually cares.
I also agree with the comments above regarding the narrowing spread in pricing.
Edited by eton97 - 10/22/15 at 11:03pm
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It's also probably because of the massive variance in quality of the product you receive, in terms of finish, sizing and leather, of brands like a1923 and to a certain extent CCP.
When people spend the money we spend on goods, you expect to at least get what you think you will get. That's definitely not the case with a1923 (and I'm talking from years of experience). With Moria you get exactly what you order. There are no strange colour issues (like aubergine being the new black), crippling creases that make your toes bleed or odd left vs right boots. Also I'm somewhat over spending thousands of pounds to wear something that looks like I found it on the back of a dumpster truck. I still own A1923, but find more and more that the newer leather he uses is sub-par, and the shape just doesn't do it for me. It's almost like I feel he's got a bit lazy. The new double zips for example are nowhere near as nice as the older pairs, and I hate the oiled horse leather he now uses....it just feels cheap.
With Moria at least I know I'm paying for the highest quality product made by somebody who actually cares.
I also agree with the comments above regarding the narrowing spread in pricing.

Very well said. I have looked at MM lately and its a great lace boot. Looks like its done well. I too don't like overly distressed cough cough a1923 and gravitate to CCP/ma+. MA+ imo gets you exactly what you want in terms of footwear. Before MM i always thought ma+ is as close as i could get to a cdiem backzip considering size 44 is nearly impossible to come by.

@Abraxis has a very nice cdiem work boot that i saw in person and really like. I don't think i've seen a1923 come near that but i do see MM make a clean nice boot to compare. I would switch those hemp laces probably.

At the moment i'll be on the sideline looking at MM as i am more of a zip boot guy these days.
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hey guys,

 

planning to pick up a pair of layer-0 ankle boots at some point and had a couple questions some of you all may be able to to help with. 

 

Anyone able to provide any sizing comparison between common projects or viberg 2030?

 

i know these don't really compare, but maybe some of  you guys have some reference there... I wear a size 43 in common projects, size 9 in viberg 2030 (snug).

 

Planning to grab a size 43 in the layer-0 ankle boot.

 

is putting a vibram sole on the standard? If so, any recommendation on where to get that work done at? 

 

appreciate any help anyone may have,

jsd

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hey guys,

planning to pick up a pair of layer-0 ankle boots at some point and had a couple questions some of you all may be able to to help with. 

Anyone able to provide any sizing comparison between common projects or viberg 2030?

i know these don't really compare, but maybe some of  you guys have some reference there... I wear a size 43 in common projects, size 9 in viberg 2030 (snug).

Planning to grab a size 43 in the layer-0 ankle boot.

is putting a vibram sole on the standard? If so, any recommendation on where to get that work done at? 

appreciate any help anyone may have,
jsd

L0 fits tts, should be a little roomy iirc

vibram if you want some tread, avoid slippage and not pay as much to replace soles after wear

good luck
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Originally Posted by jsd642 View Post

hey guys,

planning to pick up a pair of layer-0 ankle boots at some point and had a couple questions some of you all may be able to to help with. 

Anyone able to provide any sizing comparison between common projects or viberg 2030?

i know these don't really compare, but maybe some of  you guys have some reference there... I wear a size 43 in common projects, size 9 in viberg 2030 (snug).

Planning to grab a size 43 in the layer-0 ankle boot.

is putting a vibram sole on the standard? If so, any recommendation on where to get that work done at? 

appreciate any help anyone may have,
jsd

I have both viberg 2030 last and L0 derby. I wear 8.5 in viberg and 41in L0. Viberg is perfect to my foot but L0 is a little bit roomy. If you like tight take 41 but I advice that you take 42 in a safe side. 43 will be too big for you.

Good Luck with your purcahse.
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L0 fits tts, should be a little roomy iirc

vibram if you want some tread, avoid slippage and not pay as much to replace soles after wear

good luck
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Originally Posted by smallgarlic View Post

I have both viberg 2030 last and L0 derby. I wear 8.5 in viberg and 41in L0. Viberg is perfect to my foot but L0 is a little bit roomy. If you like tight take 41 but I advice that you take 42 in a safe side. 43 will be too big for you.

Good Luck with your purcahse.

Appreciate the info, will help a lot getting this purchase right the first time!
post #19690 of 22279
Layer-0 fits TTS. I'm a 41-42 in CP and I take a 42 in Layer-0 - don't size down. 43 will be fine.

Good price on some M Moria boots, I'd buy these if they were a 42:

http://re-porter.ca/shoes/horween-ankle-boot/
http://re-porter.ca/shoes/horween-ankle-boot-2/
post #19691 of 22279

these factory fuckers keep creeping up on the artisan materials

http://shop.thelastconspiracy.com/collections/men/products/surla-4

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Most "Artisan" boots are made in a factory too
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So, has anybody here tried their stuff and can comment on it?
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Most "Artisan" boots are made in a factory

To varying degrees of fit/finish, yes. I'm commenting on the rise of non-cow leather and interesting treatments from brands like LC. I had a pair of Guidi style side zips from them a few years ago and they would have been fine except that I'd already handled real Guidi leather. I think now tho, the landscape may be changing. The demand might cause the rise of the $700 actually baller level quality boot once again. 

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