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post #151 of 225
was there a fucking editor....jesus fucking christ.
post #152 of 225
I'm still confused about whose kid Jon is. First it was that some lady who fell in love with ned stark killed herself and that some dude from her castle told arya that him and jon were milk brothers (ie jon was the lady's son). then we hear that it was some peasant lady who helped ned stark get through a tough situation (something about escaping jail or a siege or something) and then helping him find his way through the mountains.
post #153 of 225
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I'm still confused about whose kid Jon is. First it was that some lady who fell in love with ned stark killed herself and that some dude from her castle told arya that him and jon were milk brothers (ie jon was the lady's son). then we hear that it was some peasant lady who helped ned stark get through a tough situation (something about escaping jail or a siege or something) and then helping him find his way through the mountains.

The common theory is that Jon is a legitimate Stark child, the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen's illicit relationship.
post #154 of 225
I didnt know they screwed. I thought she just got a flower at a tournament
post #155 of 225
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I didnt know they screwed. I thought she just got a flower at a tournament

And sometime later he kidnapped her, and she died (presumably in childbirth).
post #156 of 225
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I didnt know they screwed. I thought she just got a flower at a tournament

And sometime later he kidnapped her, and she died (presumably in childbirth).

Oh right
post #157 of 225
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The common theory is that Jon is a legitimate Stark child, the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen's illicit relationship.

I forgot who it was, but one of the characters in Book 5 said that Jon was Brandon Stark's son.
post #158 of 225
dear hbo....please do direwolves like so.....
post #159 of 225
^^^THIS.

The direwolves are so important and so cool to the story.

Rolling out dogs and calling them wolves is insufficient.
post #160 of 225
Had mixed feelings when I finished it a few weeks ago.

The 4th book dragged....
5th was much better although not as good as 1 and 2 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I was disappointed that arya spent one measly chapter blind. I was so pissed at myself for opening this thread when it first started (and I was in book 2 or so) and reading the spoiler that said arya went blind. And in the end, her blindness only troubles her for a few pages? Sure we get a glimpse of her warg-nes but it really skipped over a big part of what is some pretty crazy training she is getting.

Jon was a huge shock...it really hit hard but that is what GRRM is supposed to be doing. I can't imagine he is dead...lives on in ghost at the very least, but really probably has some sort of body left as a wight or in a beric style. Otherwise, we are rapidly running out of living characters who would recognize Jeyne to not be Arya.

Very little on bran and absolutely nothing on rikkon (other than being told that he still exists). Sure he is a toddler and has at this point really has zero of the stark upbringing, but he still has a wolf.

The one thing that has surprised me and makes me question how it will end in 7 books is that despite the references present from the beginning of the first books...we have seen very little actual magic used and barely a glimpse of the dragons. With everything else that is going on, I have been waiting for a sort of rebirth of magic to coincide with the rebirth of the dragons. There was obviously something going on in old valyria and its only a matter of time before we figure out what really happened to those islands and what power destroyed them (possibly the same stuff that created the white walkers)
post #161 of 225
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Had mixed feelings when I finished it a few weeks ago.

The 4th book dragged....
5th was much better although not as good as 1 and 2 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I was disappointed that arya spent one measly chapter blind. I was so pissed at myself for opening this thread when it first started (and I was in book 2 or so) and reading the spoiler that said arya went blind. And in the end, her blindness only troubles her for a few pages? Sure we get a glimpse of her warg-nes but it really skipped over a big part of what is some pretty crazy training she is getting.

Jon was a huge shock...it really hit hard but that is what GRRM is supposed to be doing. I can't imagine he is dead...lives on in ghost at the very least, but really probably has some sort of body left as a wight or in a beric style. Otherwise, we are rapidly running out of living characters who would recognize Jeyne to not be Arya.

Very little on bran and absolutely nothing on rikkon (other than being told that he still exists). Sure he is a toddler and has at this point really has zero of the stark upbringing, but he still has a wolf.

The one thing that has surprised me and makes me question how it will end in 7 books is that despite the references present from the beginning of the first books...we have seen very little actual magic used and barely a glimpse of the dragons. With everything else that is going on, I have been waiting for a sort of rebirth of magic to coincide with the rebirth of the dragons. There was obviously something going on in old valyria and its only a matter of time before we figure out what really happened to those islands and what power destroyed them (possibly the same stuff that created the white walkers)

You thought 5 > 4? I feel the exact opposite.
post #162 of 225
My big problem now is that I'm feeling deja vu. I've already experienced an older author going on far to long in a fantasy series. (Wheel of Time). I expect this guy to kick it too soon.
post #163 of 225
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My big problem now is that I'm feeling deja vu. I've already experienced an older author going on far to long in a fantasy series. (Wheel of Time). I expect this guy to kick it too soon.

To be fair...doesn't this series have a definite end point?

I'm scared to even read the first wheel of time book since I have seen how many there are and heard that they fall apart (but you want to know what happens so you keep reading).

I thought there was a 7 or 8 book plan here. He looks like he might kick it before finishing that many books...but if not, we should at least get everything wrapped up although it might take another 10 years
post #164 of 225
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To be fair...doesn't this series have a definite end point?
I'm scared to even read the first wheel of time book since I have seen how many there are and heard that they fall apart (but you want to know what happens so you keep reading).
I thought there was a 7 or 8 book plan here. He looks like he might kick it before finishing that many books...but if not, we should at least get everything wrapped up although it might take another 10 years

I've enjoyed WoT, but some people quit around book 7. I suppose it's all about how much you like it, and at times how much patience you have. And at least there's only one novel left, and after a decade of waiting, that feels good. So now's the time to get into it.


I know that this series is supposedly drawing to a close, has a definitive set of novels and everything....but I can't see it sticking to that schedule. It's such a large story now, with even more characters, there's no way it can end by book 7.
post #165 of 225
I can see it being extended to 8 (considering that most of 5 was content split out from book 4 which might have thrown him off course).

but considering how much he was able to cram into book one (watching the HBO show reminded me that the first book had a lot more content than I remember..my memory had shifted stuff to book 2), it seems feasible for him to wrap it up--if he has a plan
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