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I got my book 2 days ago and just finished.

Grrm you fucking asshole. I fucking hate your fat ass
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Lol, don't impact the views of others who haven't read it yet. I thought it was decent, at least the 2nd half. I enjoyed Arya, and Jon as well. Jons choices ended up pissing me off, but I doubt he's dead. Just at the rate of book production currently, I'm afraid GRRM will be dead of a heart attack before it's done. There's no way he can finish the series within only 2 more novels
post #122 of 225
edit your post cause i edited mine.
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fwiw i thoroughly enjoyed the book. i did feel like it was tough catching up and remembering everything even if its only been a few weeks since I read the last book. i hope grrm didnt kill jon snow.
post #123 of 225
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Which one of Jons choices? the "Ally with the Wildlings" or the "Go risk way too much to do the rescue at Hardhome"? Because the first one makes sense. The second, while I see the positive outcome, is way too likely to end poorly. As it did.
post #124 of 225
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i thought both were good choices, but the let's go rescue stannis at winterfell was the super poor one. he forgoed his vows after everything and knew he was risking rebellion by the crows.
post #125 of 225
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I can't wait another 6 years for a fucking book. Jon is going to join with Ghost. It's what wargs do. Jon is just a bitch/newby warg. Bran will probably communicate with him. The fire slut may revive him. I <3 Arya. The book was a fun read. I did not see Jon dying coming. It actually upset for a solid 3 or 4 minutes.
post #126 of 225
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I know he had a lot of damn characters to catch up on, but it didn't feel like the plot moved as much as it did in the past couple books. Jon rustles up wildling support at the Wall. Danaerys does...stuff in Meereen, then rides a dragon. Tyrion has random wacky adventures. Stannis gets stuck in the snow. Arya reaches epiphany, gets sight back.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the hell out of it, but I sort of miss the head-long rushing pace of the first three books. I guess no one can script things at that pace forever.

Also, hurray for waiting another XXX years with all these fucking cliffhangers!
post #127 of 225
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Faceless Arya making shit get real for the Lannisters when she gets back from Braavos.
post #128 of 225
^ SICK.
post #129 of 225
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Was it the upshot of the child assassins in the epilogue that Varys is the kindly man training Arya Stark?

post #130 of 225
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Was it the upshot of the child assassins in the epilogue that Varys is the kindly man training Arya Stark?


I don't think so. More that his "little birds" are not as harmless as they seem. Although V. as a FM would be an interesting twist. I think he's far too involved in and concerned with politics for that to make sense though.
post #131 of 225
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I don't think so. More that his "little birds" are not as harmless as they seem. Although V. as a FM would be an interesting twist. I think he's far too involved in and concerned with politics for that to make sense though.

Maybe you are right, though it seems the FM are up to something as well (see prologue for AFfC).

Which Klitschko does everyone have in the Battle Royale?
post #132 of 225
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Was it the upshot of the child assassins in the epilogue that Varys is the kindly man training Arya Stark?

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Remember, they were talking about how he trained the young thieves across the sea, so it's all to show he's up to his old trick (obviously), and stressing the fact he can do ANYTHING he needs to get his goals. He can kill a lord, in his own chambers, with none ever finding out who or why.
post #133 of 225
Alright, finally finished (just before my long ass flight too ughh).

Let's say say, 5 years is a LONG time for me to forget a lot.
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1.) Jon Snow dying. Yeah wtf? Obvious he's not "dead" but the part was slightly confusing. Will read again, otherwise I was just getting slightly interested. I mean, the book opens with the White Walkers and it's going to end with them and finally we see some action in that direction beyond "blah blah wildings are dangerous"

2.)Quentyn. Wow. For a second I almost imagined he would pull it off and he, along with Aegon, would become the 2nd and 3rd riders. Guess not. Fucking moron. Seriously, all I could picture throughout the entire scene was him going "Derp derp me ride dragons"

3.)Aegon still being alive, a nice twist actually.

4.) Arya's training is awesome. I see her playing a pivotal role towards the end but the greater question is who is she going to kill? To be honest many of the original antagonists are dead/worse off the the Stark children really.

5.) Stannis is not defeated, obviously. Though I'm really curious as to what the hell is going on.

6.) Yeah, Greyjoys, Zzzzz. Anyone else roll their eyes when Victarion's chapter came about? 2/3'rds through the book and another plot line shows up to further complicate things. Perhaps this is continuing from the previous book, I honestly don't remember or care.

7.) Whose the new Kingsguard? Is it supposed to be the Mountain? I really need to re-read the series to pick up on the little things, but honestly it's the most interesting part about Cersei's plote.

8.) No Littlefinger, boo.

9.) Dany.... hmm, well, it's nice to see her actually starting towards using her dragons. I like her character a lot, and in a cruel world she's fairly compassionate. But she's too compassionate and a lot of her choices were just "Ughh". Seriously, you have dragons, use them already, don't chain them up and let them rot. That's how they became extinct in the first place. Honestly I just want her to man up and start her inevitable march towards Westeros already but I fear she'll spend most of the next book dicking around.

10.) Tyrion as always is fun to read but mostly I'm just thinking "Wtf does he have to do with anything right now?" My thoughts is that he's probably leading the siege, or contributing a lot. We'll see how they plays out.

All in all though while nothing was "resolved" it's nice to see the plot moving towards a resolution at least. To me, the final conflict is going to be heavily about the White Walkers and Dany's Dragons, Fire and Ice. Yet it seems like these are the two slowest moving plot lines, so little is revealed as each book passes by yet in the first book it makes it clear how important both elements are. Well, either way, at this rate I'll be 30 when/if the series finishes which says a lot considering I started reading at fucking 16. Ughh, well at least it's not Berserk.
post #134 of 225
This series is starting to get annoying. Way too many characters, many of whom are boring/distracting/pointless, too many plot lines, and things still develop way too slowly. Which, given the length of his books and the length of time it takes for a new one to come out, is frankly inexcusable. This would have been twice as good a series with half the characters.
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This series is starting to get annoying. Way too many characters, many of whom are boring/distracting/pointless, too many plot lines, and things still develop way too slowly. Which, given the length of his books and the length of time it takes for a new one to come out, is frankly inexcusable. This would have been twice as good a series with half the characters.

I certainly agree with the sentiment behind this statement. Martin has gone from epic (in the dictionary definition sense of the word, not in the "that was epic, bro!" sense) to rambling, and the newest book veered far too closely to Wheel of Time/Robert Jordan for my liking.
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