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Floyd $ Mayweather vs Vicious Victor Ortiz Set for Sept 17th

post #1 of 60
6/7/11 at 4:14pm
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Reserving this thread for the future. Yes, they'll both be doing Olympic Style Drug Testing.
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post #2 of 60
6/7/11 at 4:32pm
Ortiz is an exciting fighter with a lot of heart, but really man, hes just going to be outclassed here.
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post #3 of 60
6/7/11 at 4:58pm
Floyd is clearly scared of fighting real competition.
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post #4 of 60
6/7/11 at 5:05pm
Tune up for Pacman? Floyd isn't getting any younger. I wonder if he'd trade one loss for the better part of $100M.
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post #5 of 60
6/7/11 at 5:12pm
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Tune up for Pacman? Floyd isn't getting any younger. I wonder if he'd trade one loss for the better part of $100M.
we'll see after the payouts for the legal cases Money has on his plate. it was basically financial troubles that had Money un-retireing the first time. hopefully Money will settle all the cases up and then be not distracted [legally/financially] for this fight or any future fight.
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post #6 of 60
6/7/11 at 5:19pm
I can't get my head around how much these guys make.
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post #7 of 60
6/7/11 at 5:44pm
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Floyd is clearly scared of fighting real competition.
Because he's a fighting a young guy who just came off a great win and took away someone's zero in the process?

That's what great fighters like Floyd Jr and Bernard Hopkins do.
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Tune up for Pacman? Floyd isn't getting any younger. I wonder if he'd trade one loss for the better part of $100M.
Floyd's had one request ever since January of last year. He even repeated that same request live again on HBO PPV immediately after the Mosley fight for the whole world to hear:


Let see if you stick with your prediction on who wins that fight after Marquez troubles manny again.
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post #8 of 60
6/7/11 at 7:37pm
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Because he's a fighting a young guy who just came off a great win and took away someone's zero in the process?

That's what great fighters like Floyd Jr and Bernard Hopkins do.
Floyd's had one request ever since January of last year. He even repeated that same request live again on HBO PPV immediately after the Mosley fight for the whole world to hear:


Let see if you stick with your prediction on who wins that fight after Marquez troubles manny again.

Manny has this wierd thing about his blood, you know that. Look, if Floyd isn't scared of losing a fight, and like you've contended so many times, if Manny's weaknesses are so glaring, then just fight the man. You don't have to worry about a guy being on roids if you can beat him handily. I personally think that it would be a competitive fight - the most competitive of both their careers, and let the best man win. If nothing else, it would put to rest all that talk about Floyd being scared.
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post #9 of 60
6/7/11 at 7:46pm
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Manny has this wierd thing about his blood, you know that. Look, if Floyd isn't scared of losing a fight, and like you've contended so many times, if Manny's weaknesses are so glaring, then just fight the man. You don't have to worry about a guy being on roids if you can beat him handily. I personally think that it would be a competitive fight - the most competitive of both their careers, and let the best man win. If nothing else, it would put to rest all that talk about Floyd being scared.
It also puts the talk about manny being on steroids to rest, but he doesn't care and rather try to fight Floyd in the courtroom.
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post #10 of 60
6/7/11 at 8:34pm
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It also puts the talk about manny being on steroids to rest, but he doesn't care and rather try to fight Floyd in the courtroom.

It's quite clear Manny wants to fight Floyd more than the other way around.

Floyd's clearly looking for excuses. It's not like Manny is rejecting blood/drug tests.

What is wrong with taking blood immediately after the fight? Does Floyd seriously think its plausible that Manny would do some blood exchange right after the bell sounds?
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post #11 of 60
6/7/11 at 9:21pm
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It's quite clear Manny wants to fight Floyd more than the other way around. Floyd's clearly looking for excuses. It's not like Manny is rejecting blood/drug tests. What is wrong with taking blood immediately after the fight? Does Floyd seriously think its plausible that Manny would do some blood exchange right after the bell sounds?
If Floyd was looking for excuses, why has he only had one request ever since LAST YEAR, take them tests with no cutoffs!? manny on the other hand has said I'm scared of needles > blood tests weaken me > nvm, I won't allow Floyd to dictate the rules > I agree to 14 days > I agree to no cutoff > Actually, I only agreed to 7 days. He even goes onto national television and says it's fine with him if the fight doesn't ever happen, believing that his "legacy" and "accomplishments" makes it excusable for him to not ever fight Floyd. Would you slide on a condom right after having sex? That's why.
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post #12 of 60
6/7/11 at 9:39pm
OH MY GOD, NOT THIS DEBATE AGAIN!!!!!!

Manny was/is probably juicing and Floyd is afraid of fighting him or anyone else he thinks can beat him. Period, period, period.

Now close this thread.
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post #13 of 60
6/7/11 at 9:43pm
What is Floyd so insistent on the blood test before the fight? I "understand" Manny's point of view. He is superstitious. And no matter what you say, you fuck with a fighter's mind, he's head is not going to be in the game. So, of course he isn't going to submit to Floyd's "one demand".

I would like to know what Floyd' objection to Manny taking the test after the fight? I think that he has one concern - which is that he think that he might lose, and if he does, even if Manny pops, no one is going to remember that. This suggests that Floyd is altogether confident in his ability to beat Manny. Because if Floyd beats Manny, no one is going to care if Manny pops. If anything, it would add to Floyd's reputation.
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post #14 of 60
6/7/11 at 9:50pm
Running scared. . .
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slu...dducking072710
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ther.pacquiao/
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=28235&more=1

Basically, Pac has even agreed to testing all the way up to the fight. Floyd has also been offered 65 million. Floyd is lying about any and everything he can to milk this for all it's worth.
So Pac has agreed to every one of his stupid testing demands, and Floyd is being offered a ton of cash to fight and yet he still won't sign the fight. Dude is straight up scared to fight Pac Man.
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post #15 of 60
6/7/11 at 10:02pm
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I would like to know what Floyd' objection to Manny taking the test after the fight? I think that he has one concern - which is that he think that he might lose, and if he does, even if Manny pops, no one is going to remember that. This suggests that Floyd is altogether confident in his ability to beat Manny. Because if Floyd beats Manny, no one is going to care if Manny pops. If anything, it would add to Floyd's reputation.
Yep. This fight, if it ever happens, is very likely to go to decision. Manny is going to be stalking all night, and Floyd is worried that the judges will award aggression even if he "outboxes" Manny.
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