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post #61 of 105
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Originally Posted by miurasv View Post
You've obviously got the dough and appreciate nice things but you do seem to be making a big deal about not buying a good pair of shoes but it's your money and you can make your own choices and buy what you want or not as the case may be.

It seems like everyone else is making it a big deal, I will probably buy the AE's. until a day or so ago, if you asked me if Cole Hann and Allen Edmonds were in the same category in terms of quality I would have said yes, I was obviously wrong.
post #62 of 105
The shoes are by far the worst part. Everything else is quite passable.
post #63 of 105
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Originally Posted by jhilly8982 View Post
It seems like everyone else is making it a big deal, I will probably buy the AE's. until a day or so ago, if you asked me if Cole Hann and Allen Edmonds were in the same category in terms of quality I would have said yes, I was obviously wrong.

You asked and the people here are just trying to be helpful and you've received lots of good advice. I'm sure you'll love the AE's when you get them.
post #64 of 105
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Originally Posted by jhilly8982 View Post
It seems like everyone else is making it a big deal, I will probably buy the AE's. until a day or so ago, if you asked me if Cole Hann and Allen Edmonds were in the same category in terms of quality I would have said yes, I was obviously wrong.

Yeah, we can be a little harsh, myself included. I guess me feel we need an outlet for our '"rightous anger" that builds up with all of the crap that men purposely don before they walk our the door.

I'm not a fan of AE, but many people on here love them. Find what works for you and go with that. Once you buy one good pair of shoes, you will probably throw all of your old shoes out.
post #65 of 105
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Originally Posted by jhilly8982 View Post
It seems like everyone else is making it a big deal, I will probably buy the AE's. until a day or so ago, if you asked me if Cole Hann and Allen Edmonds were in the same category in terms of quality I would have said yes, I was obviously wrong.
You also have to remember that this is also SF, where people taking their clothing quite seriously. So when you're getting opinions that $500 isn't enough to to buy a decent pair of shoes, then you can appreciate that viewpoints here are going to be a bit skew compared to the rest of the world. So, definitely have a listen to people's opinions on here as you'll get a lot of good information, and you have; but it's ultimately your decision based on your particular situation. That being said, as already mentioned, if or when you do get the AE's, I think you'll end up really appreciating the difference over your regular shoes. That was my experience when I got my first pair.
post #66 of 105
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Originally Posted by jhilly8982 View Post
... they have used pairs but buying used shoes is like buying used underwear in my opinion. ...
If you have ever been bowling in your life and do not own a pair of bowling shoes, you have already subjected your feet to far worse than what you will with a pair of gently used AE's, thereby rendering your argument invalid. The person who previously wore the AE's likely had enough personal wealth to maintain the health of their feet (not a fact, just an observation). Now think about the feet that put on those rented bowling shoes a thousand times before you ever did. I have "thrifted" almost 10 pairs of AE's (along with a few other brands) at a grand total cost of around $70 initial outlay with some small additional expense on a couple of pairs that I coveted for new heels and such. My feet have not turned purple yet, all of my toes are still intact and I own close to $3000 at retail of very nice dress footwear. I started doing this 3 months ago. Lysol is your friend.
post #67 of 105
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Originally Posted by jhilly8982 View Post
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cole haan......
post #68 of 105
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Originally Posted by jhilly8982 View Post
Ok, I think you are taking this way to seriously. This is not a life or death situation, these are shoes, they won't make or break me. As far as the money goes, I could care less how much they cost, I dont recall ever making that big a deal about it. I was apprehensive at first but in the long the money isn't an issue.

As far as enjoying finer things in life, again it doesn't make you a better man but it is nice to treat yourself. That being said, I do enjoy the finer things, I drive a German auto, a damn nice one at that, own tens of thousands of dollars in watches and the wife and I enjoy a pretty lux and carefree lifestyle, made possible by my hardwork and determination. A pair of shoes will never be a fork in the road for me, the right pair will never lead me down the right path, just like top of the line equipment will not get you to the top of Everest, it helps but the man wearing that gear must be able to walk the talk and not just talk the walk.

sir, you have the right attitude about this. People on here will argue for days about whether the stitching on a Vass is straighter than the stitch on an Edward Green, and then another argument will ensue about whether the lack of straightness is part of the charm of a hand made shoe. Its taken to asinine levels on here.

Buy the AEs and don't worry about it. Anybody who relates climbing mount everest to buying a pair of shoes is short a few pork bellies upstairs if you know what I mean.

good luck and keep your perspective.
post #69 of 105
OP -

Allow me to chime in with more perspective as well. Despite what many will argue on here, the difference between a $300-$500 pair of shoes is relatively minor, and the price difference is all relative and subjective. I don't think anyone on here will argue the merits of say Allen Edmonds being a better shoe than Edward Green or Saint Crispin's. What people will argue is whether the EG is five times better than an Allen Edmonds; to some it is, to some it is not. To me, it is not. I would rather take a holiday with the price difference.

What cannot be argued be anyone is the merits of having good shoes. Remember, 25% of the bones in your body are in your foot; foot problems lead to knee, back, and weight problems. Why on earth would you go chintzy on something like that?

You have to look beyond mere functionality of many products. You brought up cars, which is a terrific metaphor and I use it often. A Dodge Pinto has the same basic function as a Maybach; however, no one would argue that they are comparable cars. Think of your readily available super cheap brands that neophytes love, Cole Haan, Hugo Boss, Johnston and Muphy as a Lincoln. They are "luxury for the masses who don't know better."

Think of AE as a Lexus, MB, BMW or Audi. The shoes, like the cars, are a large step up from the over produced lower products, but still have room for improvement.

Once you buy yourself a real pair of shoes that fit properly, you will, as others mentioned, probably replace all of your existing ones. The first time you put on a pair of shoes that fit you perfectly, you will realize just how much you're gaining.

As for the forum....you mentioned that people are taking this seriously. My friend, you logged onto a message board about men's style, posed a question to people who do this in their free time, and got a reaction commensurate with this. Imagine had you purchased a 1992 E Class and gone onto a MB message board and posted pictures. Chances are, the reaction you would receive would be dismissive as well.
post #70 of 105
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Originally Posted by usctrojans31 View Post
The first time you put on a pair of shoes that fit you perfectly, you will realize just how much you're gaining. Imagine had you purchased a 1992 E Class and gone onto a MB message board and posted pictures. Chances are, the reaction you would receive would be dismissive as well.
perfect fit ain't gonna happen RTW. Also, the 124 is a well respected Mercedes. There is no reason why the response should be dismissive.
post #71 of 105
This is SF. People around here take shoes pretty seriously. It's not a life or death situation, but just get the Strands and you won't look back. If you can afford to enjoy all of those other things, you can probably afford a $300 pair of dress shoes (unless your priorities lie elsewhere). The Cole Haans are not a noticeable improvement over the first pair. Without the big seam in the center they might be OK, but they'd still be substantially worse (in style, but also especially in quality) compared to the AE Strand.
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Originally Posted by jhilly8982 View Post
Ok, I think you are taking this way to seriously. This is not a life or death situation, these are shoes, they won't make or break me. As far as the money goes, I could care less how much they cost, I dont recall ever making that big a deal about it. I was apprehensive at first but in the long the money isn't an issue. As far as enjoying finer things in life, again it doesn't make you a better man but it is nice to treat yourself. That being said, I do enjoy the finer things, I drive a German auto, a damn nice one at that, own tens of thousands of dollars in watches and the wife and I enjoy a pretty lux and carefree lifestyle, made possible by my hardwork and determination. A pair of shoes will never be a fork in the road for me, the right pair will never lead me down the right path, just like top of the line equipment will not get you to the top of Everest, it helps but the man wearing that gear must be able to walk the talk and not just talk the walk.
post #72 of 105
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USCtrojan, you made a good point about the shoes, I know that all my previous "luxury for the mass" brand of shoes are crap compared to an AE brand. I completely agree that they will be far superior. Also, as a member of a couple BMW forums, most of the well respected members and purists enjoy some of the more classic early model cars to their current offerings and in general all are fans of the brand. Same with the watch community, everyone appreciates the current offerings of say rolex, but most conissuers are into the vintage references.
post #73 of 105
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Originally Posted by jhilly8982 View Post
USCtrojan, you made a good point about the shoes, I know that all my previous "luxury for the mass" brand of shoes are crap compared to an AE brand. I completely agree that they will be far superior.

Also, as a member of a couple BMW forums, most of the well respected members and purists enjoy some of the more classic early model cars to their current offerings and in general all are fans of the brand. Same with the watch community, everyone appreciates the current offerings of say rolex, but most conissuers are into the vintage references.

Unfortunately a pair of Cole Haans isn't considered 'classic' or 'vintage' around these parts
post #74 of 105
lol funny read. I recently had to go to a wedding as well, and wore a gray suit with Dark brown shoes. I think Walnut is a bit loud. Grab a white shirt and a simple black tie. I would not break the bank. The strands are great shoes and they're on sale at the moment. I really can't think of any brand of the top of my head to get you through the event at a cheap price. You don't seem to have much of an interest in fashion from your comments, which makes it odd to even post anything on this forum—but it's always good to better yourself. I do agree people take shoes way to serious here, along with everything else but it shows they have a passion for it—I respect that and it's what keeps me here. Some posters are harsh, some have more social skill and some dabble in the community but overall very helpful. I think every man should have an understanding of basic dressing in all aspects, and it does make a difference—having a nice watch doesn't excuse you from bad shoes. I use to wear Aldo's and never considered looking for anything else, their cheap, comfortable and replaceable—especially since there is an Aldo on every corner in NY. When I joined this forum, people tore my shoes apart, I thought these people were nuts or obsessed metro-sexuals—then I got my first pair of AE's; I fell in love. I'm slowly exploring other brands but my life is not circled around it. I've actually become good friends with my CEO after he noticed my shoes in the elevator and asked me about them; Now we chatted it up like friends everyday. Sidenote: I drive BMW Z4, and nothing makes me feel as confident as stepping out of it with a pair of John Lobb double strap monks to an event...blessed. Having a few good items doesn't mean you should be ignorant about other things. A well crafted shoe should command the same respect from it's owner as a well crafted car or watch—if that point is not clear then a person has missed the point of personal luxury and lives for what others deem worthy; a sad existence—to bad my life is a contradiction. lolol...
post #75 of 105
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Originally Posted by Digmenow View Post
If you have ever been bowling in your life and do not own a pair of bowling shoes, you have already subjected your feet to far worse than what you will with a pair of gently used AE's, thereby rendering your argument invalid.

The person who previously wore the AE's likely had enough personal wealth to maintain the health of their feet (not a fact, just an observation). Now think about the feet that put on those rented bowling shoes a thousand times before you ever did. I have "thrifted" almost 10 pairs of AE's (along with a few other brands) at a grand total cost of around $70 initial outlay with some small additional expense on a couple of pairs that I coveted for new heels and such. My feet have not turned purple yet, all of my toes are still intact and I own close to $3000 at retail of very nice dress footwear.

I started doing this 3 months ago. Lysol is your friend.

While I agree with the general arguement, I also don't buy used shoes. Besides the gross factor, I like the virgin leather to break in to my foot.
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