Just received a pair of perfect fit flat front chinos and dry colored jeans from suddenlee. Both fit great, the dry jeans are thin though and I got them in off white. Seem like a good weight for summer though, might pick up another pair or 2. Chinos are good and fit my athletic legs, I could have probably sized down one in the waist. Still a bit undecided on the undercover stuff. Kind of want to get 2 of the hidden placket shirts and some cropped pants but will wait a week or to so I can hear other peoples thoughts before I pull the trigger.