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post #16 of 68
Classic, but only on odd jackets.
post #17 of 68
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post
Super trendy. Don't get 'em.


On the gent on the far right, the one with the suit jacket with flapped patch, what sort of breast pocket would look right ? open patch ?
post #18 of 68
I don't like them on suits. They're an aesthetically-pleasing option on particular kinds of odd jackets, where the fabric has a relatively open weave where IMO the informal-looking pocket complements the informal-looking fabric. So things like linen, or hopsack, or even a springy/stretchy tweed (perhaps like Breanish or Harrison's Moonbeam) look good with patch pockets, and the informality of the garment means that if the pockets sag a bit over the years, it won't detract from the overall effect. For me, the overall look of the jacket should complement that too, with informal details i.e. notch lapels, preferably 2 buttons rather than 3 (or 1) and side vents. Where this places me on the argument of classic vs hype cycle issue, I'm not entirely sure. But that's how I decide whether I want them or not.
post #19 of 68
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Originally Posted by Patek View Post
Really insightful stuff. Please keep posting so that we can learn more from you.
When you posted this, you probably thought you were writing to someone who had a sense of irony. That was a reasonable enough supposition. But in a few weeks, when I've gotten myself banned, everyone will blame you for having encouraged me.
post #20 of 68
I love them on suits...if the suits are meant for more casual wear. I have two suits with patch pockets and hope to get a third next year. I certainly would not get them on a suit meant for serious business wear. I think they are especially suitable, nay preferable, on suits and odd jackets intended for summer wear. I am really quite amazed at the intensity of antipathy they have evoked among some posters in this thread. De gustibus and all that...! I will add that I get many compliments, even from total strangers, on my casual suits with patch pockets.
post #21 of 68
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post
I love them on suits...if the suits are meant for more casual wear. I have two suits with patch pockets and hope to get a third next year. I certainly would not get them on a suit meant for serious business wear. I think they are especially suitable, nay preferable, on suits and odd jackets intended for summer wear.

I am really quite amazed at the intensity of antipathy they have evoked among some posters in this thread. De gustibus and all that...!

I will add that I get may compliments, even from total strangers, on my casual suits with patch pockets.

Agree with you...

Casual summer yes...

City wear No except drink with friends at a sunny terrace..
post #22 of 68
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Originally Posted by JamesX View Post
really dislike the patch pocket design. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be abating.

+1
Patch/ flaps along w/lapped seams look very Ivy League, however.
post #23 of 68
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post
I don't like them on suits.

They're an aesthetically-pleasing option on particular kinds of odd jackets, where the fabric has a relatively open weave where IMO the informal-looking pocket complements the informal-looking fabric. So things like linen, or hopsack, or even a springy/stretchy tweed (perhaps like Breanish or Harrison's Moonbeam) look good with patch pockets, and the informality of the garment means that if the pockets sag a bit over the years, it won't detract from the overall effect. For me, the overall look of the jacket should complement that too, with informal details i.e. notch lapels, preferably 2 buttons rather than 3 (or 1) and side vents.

Where this places me on the argument of classic vs hype cycle issue, I'm not entirely sure. But that's how I decide whether I want them or not.

+1, I think they look fine on workman-y jackets, not suits..!
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post #25 of 68
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria
This is a long way of saying it is a styling detail that works for some, and not for many.

The fact that it works for some is what makes it great.

I must call bespoke romance poppycock. Not for most? There are countless old white guys who look fine in their RTW patch pockets, even if their chosen style isn't to my taste. You might as well make the same sweeping generalization about DBs or peak lapels or bowties or any number of items that can go wrong when taste is lacking.
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post #27 of 68
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
RTW patch pocket suits? Who supplies these to old white guys? - B
Bah, don't pick apart my hastily written post dashed out on a tiny screen in a parking lot. You're mythologizing a stylistic choice based on the fact it's rarely seen in RTW. My point, on the other hand, is that the question of taste is independent of how a garment is obtained. Sure, bespoke tests those tastes, but how is that news? Or even specific to patch pockets? As we've seen in WAYW, the RTW industry is happy to provide an endless parade of unconventional curiosities. Further, I think you're treating a subjective opinion in a black-and-white fashion. I don't like traditional American RTW patch pockets, for the most part, but that doesn't make all those old white dudes wrong. It was your punchline that really prompted my response, as I'm sure you realize. But if your point is that most guys lack the taste to be adventurous in bespoke, and that there are even fewer who have both the necessary taste and access to a capable tailor, then yeah, I guess I'd agree with you. But I still don't think there's much there exclusive to bespoke, much less to patch pockets. Taste is taste. And it's when clothing gets wrapped up in "Tis not for mere mortals" stuff that, IMO, things really start to go off the rails.
post #28 of 68
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
RTW patch pocket suits?



Who supplies these to old white guys?


- B

I have a BB Irish linen suit with patch pockets from a few seasons back (no McNuggets).
post #29 of 68
Generally, they look good on heavier types of cloths (+ cotton and linen, for their casualness), not so much on sleek S100's/silk blends.
post #30 of 68
I'm with Holdfast above - I think they are great on odd jackets and have come to prefer them...they take the formality of a "sports coat" down a notch and can be worn in more casual settings.

I picked up a 3-patch pocket, unstructured blue/grey/black guncheck rig last year on an impulse buy and have been surprised how often I have reached for it in non-business settings. It's so comfortable that it wears almost like an overshirt and its drawn so many compliments that I was thinking about using it as a pattern to have a few more made up in different fabrics.
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