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post #31 of 109
11/20/06 at 5:54pm
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Originally Posted by redcaimen
Than Berkeley. Isnt that the assumption being made?
I don't think UCSD outranks Cal in any hard science department, but my info could well be out of date.
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post #32 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by Manton
I don't think UCSD outranks Cal in any hard science department, but my info could well be out of date.
I think the rankings are quite scewed due to big names. UCD is well known for its med and vet program but surprisingly it has the best computer security program in the country pretty much. Like I said, all UCs have their specialty. Not to knock UCB, but I heard from some professors that they got out of UCB because it was too pretentious and cheating ran rampant. Still a great school though, even though a little too overcrowded for me. Some classes, I heard, had lecturers on rotating platforms! Some bigwhig professors have started some big companies. I think the guy who made VMWare was from UCSD or closely associated.
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post #33 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:05pm
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Originally Posted by tiecollector
I heard, had lecturers on rotating platforms!
Even better. Some courses were held in LSB 1, a huge auditorium in a neo-Babylonian building in the heart of campus. To the left and right of that monster (which must have held several hundred) were two smaller but also large lecture halls. These had closed circuit TVs. So, you could come at 7:30 to your 8 am at 1 LSB and get a seat in the main hall. Or you sat in one of the satellites and watched it simulcast. Or you slept in and bought the Black Lightning lecture notes.
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post #34 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:11pm
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Originally Posted by Manton
Or you slept in and bought the Black Lightning lecture notes.

Now I know why, all through college, I always had that creepy sensation that someone was watching me. Manton was there all along....

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post #35 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by Saucemaster
Now I know why, all through college, I always had that creepy sensation that someone was watching me. Manton was there all along....

Whoa, post-Berkeley flashback, man!
I haven't thought about Black Lightning in many a year.
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post #36 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:16pm
It is my sense that UCSD's reputation will increase in the future and UCB's will not. If they were stocks, and my time horizon was twenty years, I would go long UCSD and would short UCB.
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post #37 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad
Whoa, post-Berkeley flashback, man! I haven't thought about Black Lightning in many a year.
No kidding. Honestly, I only ever used Black Lightning for one class, and that was because the "lectures" were basically my professor reading her powerpoint slides. Since Black Lightning reproduced the slides, I was set. Plus the class was right in the middle of my day, so I could skip it and that opened up my work schedule quite a bit. Which was good, because that meant I didn't starve.
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post #38 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by redcaimen
It is my sense that UCSD's reputation will increase in the future and UCB's will not. If they were stocks, and my time horizon was twenty years, I would go long UCSD and would short UCB.
UCB's reputation has been in deline in some quarters since the early 60s. This is leaving aside "the Sixties." Talk to old timers. They will tell you that Cal from about WWI or slightly earlier until the Clark Kerr era was on a tear. They built, in a dairyland, almost from nothing, a great university to rival the Ivies. Incidentally, they stole a lot of Ivy faculty in the process. Kerr tried to mechanize, regularize, institutionalize, careerize, etc. First blow. Then "the Sixties". Second blow. Then the pummelling started.

Still, the hard science retained their luster longer than the other departments. as recently as the early 90s, nationwide faculty (forget US News) ranked Berkeley top 3 in nearly every department, and #1 in something like 20. No other school came close. And that was after 30 years of decline. Sometimes so much capital is built up, it takes a long time to spend it down.
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post #39 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:30pm
We had a nicer campus than Cal and the women were good looking at some point long before I got there. That cannot realy be said for Cal. Ever.
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post #40 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by iammatt
We had a nicer campus than Cal and the women were good looking at some point long before I got there. That cannot realy be said for Cal. Ever.

Having attended Cal as a college-aged male (which makes me something of an expert on the subject), I can say that if you can't find plenty of beautiful women at Cal, you're probably blind.

That, or you just don't dig Asian women.
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post #41 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by iammatt
We had a nicer campus than Cal and the women were good looking at some point long before I got there. That cannot realy be said for Cal. Ever.
Matt, some day I'll meet you in Berkeley - I can pull some strings and get you a visa - and I'll walk you down sorority row.
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post #42 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by iammatt
That cannot realy be said for Cal. Ever.
Better than Stanford.

I remember visiting UCLA I think in 1989. One of my friend's brothers was a student. We outsiders were really impressed about the level of talent on campus. The brother lamented, "Yeah, but as it becomes more and more of a 'smart school', and harder to get into, quality is going down, dude."
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post #43 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:47pm
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad
Matt, some day I'll meet you in Berkeley - I can pull some strings and get you a visa - and I'll walk you down sorority row.
I am shocked that they have not killed the Greek system at Cal. Manton, I remember the same sort of thing. I used to visit my cousin at UCLA in the early 80s and it was like Mecca. When I got there, things had really changed and they have gotten worse over the last dozen or so years since I left. I have to say that it is a nice place ot go to school, Westwood is great and the weather is good. However, I think it is a 'smart school' only because of demand and not necessarily because of quality.
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post #44 of 109
11/20/06 at 6:53pm
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Originally Posted by iammatt
I am shocked that they have not killed the Greek system at Cal.

Manton,

I remember the same sort of thing. I used to visit my cousin at UCLA in the early 80s and it was like Mecca. When I got there, things had really changed and they have gotten worse over the last dozen or so years since I left. I have to say that it is a nice place ot go to school, Westwood is great and the weather is good. However, I think it is a 'smart school' only because of demand and not necessarily because of quality.
Berkeley's reputation can be misleading. Lots of burned-out holdover hippies and younger wannabe-hippies, sure. But also a sizable Greek system and plenty of politically conservative or indifferent young folks more interested in figuring out how to get into Haas or Wharton than in protesting for nudity rights or an end to the War of 1812.
Even a good football team these days, which I'm still trying to get my mind around.
And trust me on the eye candy factor.
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post #45 of 109
11/20/06 at 7:00pm
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad
And trust me on the eye candy factor.

Trust you!!!

First, you are a lawyer...

Second, I thought that you were taking me on a damn fieldtrip.
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