Received my first Hober tie last night and needless to say, it is absolutely stellar. I got a 6-fold #11 navy in the Grossa Grenadine. Is it crazy to get a #10 dark navy in the Fina grenadine as well? Just by putting the swatches next to jackets I own, there really is a big difference in how well they pair. The bigger pattern jackets (maybe pattern is the wrong word here - but the wide herringbones, tweeds, houndstooth, etc.) seem to go much better with the grossa, whereas the finer patterns like birdseye and sharkskin look better with the fina. Crazy to order two ties so similar?