A Sam (and David) Hober Tie Appreciation Thread - Page 105

I'd love a grenadine with larger dots. Sort of like this, only higher quality: http://www.ctshirts.com/Hicks-navy-grenadine-small-white-spot-handmade-tie?q=usddefault|grenadine|TH577NAV|||||||||||||

and in various colors.

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Originally Posted by archibaldleach 


+1.

+2.

Also, if you all haven't seen the 7 fold tie video they just made: http://www.samhober.com/videos.html

Truly impressive.I now have an even greater appreciation for my Hober ties, despite them not being 7 folds, after seeing this.

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Originally Posted by mattcritchlow 

+2.

 

Also, if you all haven't seen the 7 fold tie video they just made: http://www.samhober.com/videos.html

 

Truly impressive.I now have an even greater appreciation for my Hober ties, despite them not being 7 folds, after seeing this.

The video totally sold me on adding a monogram to the keeper on my next tie!  It was really cool seeing the process...even if I don't have seven fold from Hober.

My latest order, all 55 x 3.25 inch:

Lined four fold:

Bitter chocolate grenadine prometeo

Dark navy grenadine grossa (had to snap up the last length of this silk, sorry!)

Black grenadine grossa

Lined six fold:

Macclesfield madder silk #12

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Originally Posted by Vodking 

My latest order, all 55 x 3.25 inch:

 

How tall/wide are you, may I ask? PM is fine.

Good choices, btw.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 

 

How tall/wide are you, may I ask? PM is fine.

 

Good choices, btw.

A couple of people have PM'd be about this so I'll just respond here:  I'm 5ft10, with 39 inch chest.  I wear trousers on my natural waist and tie a four-in-hand with both blades the same length.  I find my other grenadine (burgundy prometeo, 56.5 x 3 inch) slightly too long as it hits 0.5-1 inch below the waistband.  3 inch doesn't give much room for a dimple at the knotting point so this time I've specified widths at certain points (using my best fitting/dimpling tie as a guide) - hopefully the ties in this order will dimple well yet still look slim.

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Originally Posted by Vodking 

 

A couple of people have PM'd be about this so I'll just respond here:  I'm 5ft10, with 39 inch chest.  I wear trousers on my natural waist and tie a four-in-hand with both blades the same length.  I find my other grenadine (burgundy prometeo, 56.5 x 3 inch) slightly too long as it hits 0.5-1 inch below the waistband.  3 inch doesn't give much room for a dimple at the knotting point so this time I've specified widths at certain points (using my best fitting/dimpling tie as a guide) - hopefully the ties in this order will dimple well yet still look slim.

Interesting. I am at least an order of magnitude shorter and slimmer than you, and when I bespeak ties I get them at 141 or 142 cm. And 8.5cm or so. I prefer the more European approach to the length, with the widest part of the blade hitting the top of the waistband and the tip protruding below, however. Color me surprised. 55'' is by my reckoning definitely a short-man's length. You must wear your clothes slim or else like a very classically proportioned tie (i.e. pre 1950) that is visually compressed and sits above the waistline. Or else I am doing something wrong. I associate a tie that is bang-on with the waistband or higher with American trad conventions, but that is just me.

For those playing along at home and considering bespeaking ties by mail without the aid of a professional and a good mirror, here is a pro tip: order the same tie, preferably a solid, but not too dark, as it has the illusion of looking slimmer than its dimensions (try a medium brown, it will be easy to pair with your existing wardrobe when you conduct the test) in maybe three to five differing widths and lengths.

Go for the cheapest construction option and collect your four nominally identical ties. Test them out in sequence to determine which dimensions look best on you. When finished, give the experimental ties away as gifts and resume ordering your new ties with the dimensions you know to work.

*It is advised to have nailed down a good shirt and suit pattern before doing this as it can skew your results greatly.

^ What?

You can also just ask David for his advice. He is very sharp.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 

 

Interesting. I am at least an order of magnitude shorter and slimmer than you, and when I bespeak ties I get them at 141 or 142 cm. And 8.5cm or so. I prefer the more European approach to the length, with the widest part of the blade hitting the top of the waistband and the tip protruding below, however. Color me surprised. 55'' is by my reckoning definitely a short-man's length. You must wear your clothes slim or else like a very classically proportioned tie (i.e. pre 1950) that is visually compressed and sits above the waistline. Or else I am doing something wrong. I associate a tie that is bang-on with the waistband or higher with American trad conventions, but that is just me.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 

For those playing along at home and considering bespeaking ties by mail without the aid of a professional and a good mirror, here is a pro tip: order the same tie, preferably a solid, but not too dark, as it has the illusion of looking slimmer than its dimensions (try a medium brown, it will be easy to pair with your existing wardrobe when you conduct the test) in maybe three to five differing widths and lengths.

 

Go for the cheapest construction option and collect your four nominally identical ties. Test them out in sequence to determine which dimensions look best on you. When finished, give the experimental ties away as gifts and resume ordering your new ties with the dimensions you know to work.

 

*It is advised to have nailed down a good shirt and suit pattern before doing this as it can skew your results greatly.

That is quite strange as I've worn my first Hober enough times to realise it's 1.5 inch too long for me.  Ideally, my tie would hit between the centre and bottom of my waistband but this one extends about half an inch beneath the bottom of the waistband with both blades the same length.

I would say the width of your tie should just be relative to the length of your tie.  Taller/wider men will have longer lengths of material down their front so need a wider tie to balance the proportions.  Bespeaking four identical ties just to realise this doesn't seem necessary.  Better to follow David's instructions and order one tie initially before making any minor tweaks for future commissions.