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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post

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As far as Cappelli's suggestions and so forth, I feel this almost probably has more to do with tradition and context than with actual performance. A 7-fold tie is a traditional construction that is by design sustained by its folds, but I don't think it's designed with the fragility of gauze in mind. If they are suggesting unlined, it's more because a "lined 7-fold" tie is an anomaly and a contradiction in terms. Putting my question differently, why would you even go 6- or 7-fold on a gauze tie, and not a regular construction with a better interlining? I don't understand. I have lightly lined six fold ties of regular printed silk in varying weights, 50 oz , 36 oz , and below, and this is my preferred construction. But on a gauze tie it seems like asking for trouble. The ones I tried this on (even with some interlining, mind you) came out like socks.  Tell me, how thick of an interlining are you using when you go 6 and 7 fold???

i was going to reply in length, but david did a better job than i could have anyways.

moral of story is, different strokes for different folks, but an unlined grenadine can be just fine. its a finish that i like, others may not. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by bullswin View Post

Cappelli uses different terminology. "unlined" on their website means untipped/rolled edges. By default, he uses an interlining, which he refers to as "padding" (although, you can ask him not to use padding/interlining with a custom order). I had a lengthy/awkward email exchange with Patrizio the one time I placed an order.

interesting, thank you for that clarification.
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Originally Posted by Al in Philly View Post

According to the Hober site, they recommend 6 fold with a lining.  I'm not sure if they do a 7 fold tie, whatever that is.  I would most likely get  a 6 fold with a light lining.

Definitely leaning towards Stiches' suggestion of black fina, untipped with rolled edges.

icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif GO FOR IT!!! regarding lining, talk to david and do whatever he says. guaranteed win.
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Per David's excellent description above, I will probs go with unlined 7-fold, untipped, handrolled edges.  When that black fina is back in, I'm ordering!!

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Originally Posted by Al in Philly View Post

Per David's excellent description above, I will probs go with unlined 7-fold, untipped, handrolled edges.  When that black fina is back in, I'm ordering!!

bounce2.gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gifbounce2.gif super happy you going with it! bounce2.gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gifbounce2.gif

totally cool to wait, but just so you know, the one in my pic is the,

"Carbon Black Piccola Grenadine Silk Tie # 6"

just want to be clear thats all. the navy in my pic is fina though. either weave will be all win all the time.
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bounce2.gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gifbounce2.gif super happy you going with it! bounce2.gificon_gu_b_slayer[1].gifbounce2.gif
totally cool to wait, but just so you know, the one in my pic is the,
"Carbon Black Piccola Grenadine Silk Tie # 6"
just want to be clear thats all. the navy in my pic is fina though. either weave will be all win all the time.

Glad you're excited!  I don't need it ASAP, so I have no problem waiting a week until the fina comes in.

 

I will, of course, post updates of this process. 

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I like solid ties and I think Stitches' grenadines look great, but I don't think a solid black one is a good idea for a wedding. Too severe.

If you don't like any of the classic wedding tie patterns (Glen Plaid, Houndstooth, Shepherd's Check, etc) and want a solid grenadine, I think this one could work nicely with a grey suit and white shirt:

Grenadine-necktie-GFT21b.jpg

From here.

Actually, since I haven't found a wedding tie I really like yet, I should probably get that one. Would pair it with a navy suit, though.
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STEP ASIDE KAPLAN! STICHES IDEA IS BEST IDEA!!!


jk, that is a great tie. but i think that tie with a gray suit and white shirt would be all washed out.
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Thanks David...my first two grenadines were 4 fold lined and I really like the weight and will order the same this time but in charcoal and navy.
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STEP ASIDE KAPLAN! STICHES IDEA IS BEST IDEA!!!
jk, that is a great tie. but i think that tie with a gray suit and white shirt would be all washed out.
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I agree it would be better with a navy suit, but I think it could work with a grey suit as well (for a grey'ish on grey'ish look that seemed to work, without necessarily being wedding appropriate, see my avatar).

I still think solid black is a bad idea. (Only for this specific purpose. I like that black grenadine for a lot of other stuff.)

Just to check that I wasn't totally out of my mind, I looked around a bit and found this:
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

DO NOT wear a solid black tie to a wedding. Ick.

If you really want to wear a solid tie, make it silver.
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Originally Posted by Despos View Post

This is the thing to do. Silver tie.
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Originally Posted by lasbar View Post

Just no black tie...

etc...

Personally, I'm not fond of ties that are true silver, which is why I suggested that particualar one that has both silver and charcoal in it.

Of course, in the end the OP should get what he feels is right for him.

Good luck :-)
Edited by Kaplan - 11/14/12 at 7:11pm
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I definitely prefer the silver over the black, though I agree that it would look better with a navy suit than a grey. For grey, I'd go a very dark navy blue for a solid.

But, my personal fave is a shepherd's check in black and white. It's what I wore to my wedding, after all smile.gif
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Hmm... Thank you all for giving me a lot to think about.  Before Stitch suggested the black fina I was leaning for the traditional silver/charcoal fine silk wedding tie.  Hober just doesn't have any patterns that really spoke to me.  

 

Maybe a silver/charcoal grenadine?  I do like the one that was suggested.

 

I picked up the ring today.  Designed it myself, and a friend made it.  She's a professional jeweler in the city.  Got the ring at cost!  No complaints here!

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I agree it would be better with a navy suit, but I think it could work with a grey suit as well (for a grey'ish on grey'ish look that seemed to work, without necessarily being wedding appropriate, see my avatar).
I still think solid black is a bad idea. (Only for this specific purpose. I like that black grenadine for a lot of other stuff.)
Just to check that I wasn't totally out of my mind, I looked around a bit and found this:
etc...
Personally, I'm not fond of ties that are true silver, which is why I suggested that particualar one that has both silver and charcoal in it.
Of course, in the end the OP should get what he feels is right for him.
Good luck :-)
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

I definitely prefer the silver over the black, though I agree that it would look better with a navy suit than a grey. For grey, I'd go a very dark navy blue for a solid.
But, my personal fave is a shepherd's check in black and white. It's what I wore to my wedding, after all smile.gif

lol what do those guys know. they stink.

but srs, if black is no bueno for a wedding, with a gray suit your shepherds check idea is good, or dark navy grenadine.
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Originally Posted by Al in Philly View Post

Hmm... Thank you all for giving me a lot to think about.  Before Stitch suggested the black fina I was leaning for the traditional silver/charcoal fine silk wedding tie.  Hober just doesn't have any patterns that really spoke to me.  

Maybe a silver/charcoal grenadine?  I do like the one that was suggested.

I picked up the ring today.  Designed it myself, and a friend made it.  She's a professional jeweler in the city.  Got the ring at cost!  No complaints here!

good job on the ring!

see above, i still think black is great, even if against certain standards, if not the above options are good. i just think gray gray white is a snooze fest.
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What does everyone think about this one?  Too blue?  I wish there was a solid silver one.  

 

The suit will be dark grey.  Think a shade lighter than charcoal.

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maybe i just have something against these ultra light ties. i think dark gray and navy are great, and would be better than these light shades.

forgive the narcism, here is one i wore. obviously for a weeding you will be wearing a white shirt, which will be fine, but you can get the idea of dark gray and navy grenadine.

just my 2 cents.

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oh yeah


700

Does this pattern come in a tie?
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Does this pattern come in a tie?

that would be awesome.
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