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i would STRONGLY recommend, a black, grenadine fina. go crazy for the wedding, 7 fold unlined, untipped and hand rolled edges.

you will not regret it i guarantee.
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i would STRONGLY recommend, a black, grenadine fina. go crazy for the wedding, 7 fold unlined, untipped and hand rolled edges.
you will not regret it i guarantee.

I didn't think about this route, but I am intrigued.  

 

Price is no object for this.  This tie will have all the bells and whistles.

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im sure others will have ideas, but mine is the best. go buy it. smile.gif

it will be perfect with the gray suit and a crisp white shirt.

like below. the navy will also look great, but for a wedding, you should go with black i think.

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im sure others will have ideas, but mine is the best. go buy it. smile.gif
it will be perfect with the gray suit and a crisp white shirt.

I probably would, but it seems Hober is all out of that fabric ATM.

 

That photo is some serious inspiration!  Maybe I'll go dual color, with the back blade a dark burgundy shade?

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I probably would, but it seems Hober is all out of that fabric ATM.

That photo is some serious inspiration!  Maybe I'll go dual color, with the back blade a dark burgundy shade?

Those are great suggestions from stitches.

He should be restocking many fabrics shortly from what I understand.

Don't discount a sweet glen plaid or shepherd's check though biggrin.gif But yeah, either of those grenadines would be awesome too.
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Stitches, do those have a light lining or are they completely unlined?

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Originally Posted by Al in Philly View Post

I probably would, but it seems Hober is all out of that fabric ATM.

That photo is some serious inspiration!  Maybe I'll go dual color, with the back blade a dark burgundy shade?

noap, plenty on hand of the one i got, right here. dont wait! buy now! hurry hurry! smile.gif

http://www.samhober.com/grenadine-piccola-silk-ties/carbon-black-piccola-grenadine-silk-tie-6.html

almost the same as fina, just as awesome.

lol, for a wedding tie, keep it simple, just black.
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Stitches, do those have a light lining or are they completely unlined?

those do have a lining, as i only went 4 fold, but if i did 7 fold, id have gone unlined. next time. nod[1].gif
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Those are great suggestions from stitches.
He should be restocking many fabrics shortly from what I understand.
Don't discount a sweet glen plaid or shepherd's check though biggrin.gif But yeah, either of those grenadines would be awesome too.

missed this, in about week or so, i think the grenadines will be back. but if he likes mine, they are available now in the above link.

you ideas are also good, almost as good as mine. wink.gif
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Fina/Piccola Black Grenadine, perfect choice for a wedding, no question about it, unless of course you are wearing a tux wink.gif
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I have to question the love of the unlined seven fold gauze tie on here. Is this an eyes-bigger-than-stomach thing? I have a few unlined seven fold gauze ties and find them woefully insubstantial, even less so than a neckerchief, in terms of having any substance, hold, or anything. It's like wearing a bolo tie.  Why the love? Sanity check please.
 

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I have to question the love of the unlined seven fold gauze tie on here. Is this an eyes-bigger-than-stomach thing? I have a few unlined seven fold gauze ties and find them woefully insubstantial, even less so than a neckerchief, in terms of having any substance, hold, or anything. It's like wearing a bolo tie.  Why the love? Sanity check please.

 

any made by hober?

certainly a grenadine is always gonna be somewhat see through if its unlined, but if the silk is substantial enough, woven well and its folded right, it should be fine. as a matter of fact, on the capelli website, if you chose the 7 fold option on a grenadine, they recommend that it be unlined.

horses for courses i guess.

would be nice to hear davids input on this.
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any made by hober?
certainly a grenadine is always gonna be somewhat see through if its unlined, but if the silk is substantial enough, woven well and its folded right, it should be fine. as a matter of fact, on the capelli website, if you chose the 7 fold option on a grenadine, they recommend that it be unlined.
horses for courses i guess.
would be nice to hear davids input on this.

 

No...

As far as Cappelli's suggestions and so forth, I feel this almost probably has more to do with tradition and context than with actual performance. A 7-fold tie is a traditional construction that is by design sustained by its folds, but I don't think it's designed with the fragility of gauze in mind. If they are suggesting unlined, it's more because a "lined 7-fold" tie is an anomaly and a contradiction in terms. Putting my question differently, why would you even go 6- or 7-fold on a gauze tie, and not a regular construction with a better interlining? I don't understand. I have lightly lined six fold ties of regular printed silk in varying weights, 50 oz , 36 oz , and below, and this is my preferred construction. But on a gauze tie it seems like asking for trouble. The ones I tried this on (even with some interlining, mind you) came out like socks.  Tell me, how thick of an interlining are you using when you go 6 and 7 fold???

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a matter of fact, on the capelli website, if you chose the 7 fold option on a grenadine, they recommend that it be unlined.

Cappelli uses different terminology. "unlined" on their website means untipped/rolled edges. By default, he uses an interlining, which he refers to as "padding" (although, you can ask him not to use padding/interlining with a custom order). I had a lengthy/awkward email exchange with Patrizio the one time I placed an order.
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According to the Hober site, they recommend 6 fold with a lining.  I'm not sure if they do a 7 fold tie, whatever that is.  I would most likely get  a 6 fold with a light lining.

 

Definitely leaning towards Stiches' suggestion of black fina, untipped with rolled edges.

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