two honest questions: 1) why is this website so ugly and visually unsophisticated, especially considering the subject matter, and 2) why is the "u" in the word styleforum masthead red while the rest of the letters black—what is the purpose? thanks! don't get me wrong, i find the content interesting for the most part and that's the important thing, but man, it's 2011.
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assuming you are serious, which is questionable, good content makes a visually enhanced web design not neccessary. Until you posed this question I hadnt even thought about it, and i usually dont enjoy a web site with boring design. here however, the volume of solid content makes it a moot point afiac. and I enjoy the mistique of the scarlet letter
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TBH I despise the shiny blue gradients, distracting animations and eye candy of many so called 'web2.0' sites.
Thanks for the comments. I will message those folks you all mentioned.
To clarify from my last post,
I, too, dislike blue gradients, distracting animations, flash, and eye candy. I am not a fan of "web 2.0" stuff at all. I call that bubble gum design and I'm not into it. I have more a swiss typography, minimalist, modern, clean, kind of eye. When I place something on the page or screen, I try to do so to help tell a story, aid in navigation, aid in understanding, etc. It needs to have a purpose. I typically dislike things that "have the look of meaning" but are really just there filling space as decoration.
(For the record, I am a graphic designer working in San Francisco; maybe I am being hyper sensitive to the visual identity of this site and forum, but I just think things can be stepped up a notch or two.)
And also, I have no problems with the colors. I love shades of grey and burgundy/maroon/brick red. I don't think the site should be "visually enhanced" the way you all are referring to. I just think that the site, as it stands now, is visually clunky, cluttered, outdated, default, unsophisticated. It is in opposition to a lot of the content, style advice, brands, etc that people discuss on the site. I actually think that a lot of the visual "stuff" (lines, boxes, boxes within boxes within boxes) scattered all over the pages can be removed, rethought, etc while not losing any of the content, but aiding in clarity. Reduce the visual clutter.
I don't mean to detract from the great job the admins have done with making sure all goes smoothly here. A lot of hard work goes into this site, I know, so I don't mean to take anything away from those efforts and those individuals. And I know a visual refresh is a lot of work. I do indeed know.
I just think that the way things are presented could be handled a little more deftly. A touch more elegantly. Take a look at Site Inspire, and all of the sites that it features, for example. Different content and information hierarchy, I know, but I really think styleforum can evolve to feel cleaner along these lines. Also check out Dowling Duncan and Mike McQuade. Even Chair Free Chicago.
I would love to see styleforum's 11 primary categories ("buying and selling", "streetwear and denim", etc) be treated in this modular way, where each category gets its own square/block/module on the main page. Perhaps when the visitor rolls over a particular category, the latest post info shows (similar to how it works on the Dowling Duncan site). Then when they click to visit that category, they are presented with a well thought out list of posts and supporting information. Again, no information would be lost. It would just be handled with more nuance, and I think better reflect the taste of many of the forum members.
Anyway, I wanted to write up a slightly longer reply as a way to clarify from my first post. Sorry for being a bit vague with that. And thanks again for the names of the people in charge.
I don't know, does anyone else see where I'm coming from, or does everyone either not care, or really enjoy what's happening right now visually?
Thanks!
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5/22/11 at 4:59am
Im going to add my voice to the general consensus and suggest you take this up with Vox. This is pretty much his bailiwick. It would probably be more productive simply to PM him rather than start a thread on the topic. Specific discussion of this sort has a way of getting off topic here in the general forum.
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5/22/11 at 2:21pm
Everyone is trolling you, bro.
The reason this site is designed like this is because vBulletin is the preeminent (and best) forum platform available. This site uses vBulletin for its boards. Another benefit of using vBulletin is that most new users are already familiar with how to use the boards as they have likely encountered it before.
StyleForum is mainly a discussion site. There is some original content, but it is limited. As such, having a portal or cutesy designed splash page like the ones you linked to would only detract from the real reason its users visit the site. Style is good but it must be functional - in this case it would be the opposite.
If you can point to forums that are better designed, go ahead, but comparing a vBulletin board to a regular website is as fruitless as comparing apples to oranges.
The reason this site is designed like this is because vBulletin is the preeminent (and best) forum platform available. This site uses vBulletin for its boards. Another benefit of using vBulletin is that most new users are already familiar with how to use the boards as they have likely encountered it before.
StyleForum is mainly a discussion site. There is some original content, but it is limited. As such, having a portal or cutesy designed splash page like the ones you linked to would only detract from the real reason its users visit the site. Style is good but it must be functional - in this case it would be the opposite.
If you can point to forums that are better designed, go ahead, but comparing a vBulletin board to a regular website is as fruitless as comparing apples to oranges.
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5/22/11 at 2:36pm
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Everyone is trolling you, bro.
The reason this site is designed like this is because vBulletin is the preeminent (and best) forum platform available. This site uses vBulletin for its boards. Another benefit of using vBulletin is that most new users are already familiar with how to use the boards as they have likely encountered it before.
StyleForum is mainly a discussion site. There is some original content, but it is limited. As such, having a portal or cutesy designed splash page like the ones you linked to would only detract from the real reason its users visit the site. Style is good but it must be functional - in this case it would be the opposite.
If you can point to forums that are better designed, go ahead, but comparing a vBulletin board to a regular website is as fruitless as comparing apples to oranges.
The reason this site is designed like this is because vBulletin is the preeminent (and best) forum platform available. This site uses vBulletin for its boards. Another benefit of using vBulletin is that most new users are already familiar with how to use the boards as they have likely encountered it before.
StyleForum is mainly a discussion site. There is some original content, but it is limited. As such, having a portal or cutesy designed splash page like the ones you linked to would only detract from the real reason its users visit the site. Style is good but it must be functional - in this case it would be the opposite.
If you can point to forums that are better designed, go ahead, but comparing a vBulletin board to a regular website is as fruitless as comparing apples to oranges.
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5/22/11 at 3:03pm
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Everyone is trolling you, bro.
The reason this site is designed like this is because vBulletin is the preeminent (and best) forum platform available. This site uses vBulletin for its boards. Another benefit of using vBulletin is that most new users are already familiar with how to use the boards as they have likely encountered it before.
StyleForum is mainly a discussion site. There is some original content, but it is limited. As such, having a portal or cutesy designed splash page like the ones you linked to would only detract from the real reason its users visit the site. Style is good but it must be functional - in this case it would be the opposite.
If you can point to forums that are better designed, go ahead, but comparing a vBulletin board to a regular website is as fruitless as comparing apples to oranges.
The reason this site is designed like this is because vBulletin is the preeminent (and best) forum platform available. This site uses vBulletin for its boards. Another benefit of using vBulletin is that most new users are already familiar with how to use the boards as they have likely encountered it before.
StyleForum is mainly a discussion site. There is some original content, but it is limited. As such, having a portal or cutesy designed splash page like the ones you linked to would only detract from the real reason its users visit the site. Style is good but it must be functional - in this case it would be the opposite.
If you can point to forums that are better designed, go ahead, but comparing a vBulletin board to a regular website is as fruitless as comparing apples to oranges.
Comparing apples to oranges may not be useful but its hardly fruitless.
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We are actually going to go to a new system, with both increased functionality, and hopefully, visual appeal. We are actually in the testing and user-review stage (as some of you know).
Fortunately, we are not going to a format like any of the examples posted by the OP, all of which I find to be unintuitive to use, overly trendy, and about-to-be-dated. As in, they will be the Avocado Green of 2011. Ugh. I nearly threw up my delicious lunch. I know a lot of graphic designers, and we work with some. The problem with graphic designers is the same as the problem with fashion designers. The best ones make something appealing, and move on. The huge middle of the pack pick up on an idea, and run it into the ground. The design of those websites are deader than that '59 Playboy Playmate.
Fortunately, we are not going to a format like any of the examples posted by the OP, all of which I find to be unintuitive to use, overly trendy, and about-to-be-dated. As in, they will be the Avocado Green of 2011. Ugh. I nearly threw up my delicious lunch. I know a lot of graphic designers, and we work with some. The problem with graphic designers is the same as the problem with fashion designers. The best ones make something appealing, and move on. The huge middle of the pack pick up on an idea, and run it into the ground. The design of those websites are deader than that '59 Playboy Playmate.
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