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Life in world class cities vs. everywhere else

changy

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Originally Posted by StephenHero
Gamma - world cities
Detroit, Manchester, Wellington, Riga, Guayaquil, Edinburgh, Porto, San Salvador, St. Petersburg, Tallinn, Port Louis, San Diego, Islamabad, Birmingham, Doha, Calgary, Almaty, Columbus,


San Diego and Detroit are not the same class
 

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Originally Posted by StephenHero
Here's another list: Alpha Alpha++ world cities: London, New York Alpha+ world cities: Hong Kong, Paris, Singapore, Tokyo, Sydney, Milan, Shanghai, Beijing Alpha world cities: Madrid, Moscow, Seoul, Toronto, Brussels, Buenos Aires, Mumbai, Kuala Lumpur, Chicago
need to rename top tier to "alpha as ****"
 

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noted. fixed.


Has anyone lived in Munich? Is it as great as it looks? I was surprised it wasn't more alpha.
 

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Originally Posted by iammatt
Try living in a mediocre city with world class pretentions.

When did you move to Portland?
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
The place I most want to live is Santa Cruz.

Face it Monton, you're a hippy. I agree though, SC is really, really, nice. Maybe a few miles north and east. . . pretty much perfect.
 

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Originally Posted by StephenHero
noted. fixed.


Has anyone lived in Munich? Is it as great as it looks? I was surprised it wasn't more alpha.


Havent lived there, bit was there numerous times. Its à great town, but not sure if its up there . Also, antwerp>Brussels
 

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Originally Posted by Not Ed Harris
I live in London but I grew up in a small village just south of the Scottish border. I honestly don't think that I could tolerate living in any other city in the UK barring maybe a couple (Edinburgh and maybe Newcastle). They all seem to be just that bit crapper in every respect other than the cost of living. It also doesn't help that the other cities seem to be largely the same. Wife is the same, but she's a Londoner and doesn't even have the experience of living anywhere else.

Living in the country I could easily handle, but a mediocre town where everything is a little worse than what I'm used to? Not going to happen.


+1

It's London or emigration for me.
 

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Indianapolis is definitely not world class but it's easy and cheap to live here. You have to get out to world class cities often though.
 

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I lived in London once for about 6 months. Not sure if London qualifies as a 'world class city' or not, but I didn't enjoy it at all and wouldn't do it again.
 

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Everything is dull after living in a world-class city. You suffer from structural dissatisfaction: returning to circumstances that once pleased you, having experienced a more thrilling or opulent way of life, and finding that you can no longer tolerate them.

Those lists are a joke, by the way. Brussels at 11th, Sydney at 9th? Jesus.

Aside from NY, London, Tokyo and Paris, there are no world-class cities, just aspirants who lack either the wealth, culture, or political importance to make it.
 

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Originally Posted by StephenHero
Chicago is 6th on the Global Cities Index.

Rank\tCity\tScore
1\tNew York City\t6.22
2\tLondon\t5.86
3\tTokyo\t5.42
4\tParis\t5.35
5\tHong Kong\t4.14
6\tChicago\t3.94
7\tLos Angeles\t3.90
8\tSingapore\t3.45
9\tSydney\t3.44
10\tSeoul\t3.40
11\tBrussels\t3.29
12\tSan Francisco\t3.26
13\tWashington, D.C.\t3.25
14\tToronto\t3.13
15\tBeijing\t3.12
16\tBerlin\t3.03
17\tMadrid\t3.02
18\tVienna\t2.96
19\tBoston\t2.78
20\tFrankfurt am Main\t2.78
20\tShanghai\t2.78
22\tBuenos Aires\t2.73
23\tStockholm\t2.71
24\tZurich\t2.68
25\tMoscow\t2.61
26\tBarcelona\t2.57
27\tDubai\t2.56
28\tRome\t2.56
29\tAmsterdam\t2.54
30\tMexico City\t2.41

Here's another list:

Alpha

Alpha as **** ++ world cities:

London, New York

Alpha+ world cities:

Hong Kong, Paris, Singapore, Tokyo, Sydney, Milan, Shanghai, Beijing

Alpha world cities:

Madrid, Moscow, Seoul, Toronto, Brussels, Buenos Aires, Mumbai, Kuala Lumpur, Chicago

Alpha− world cities:

Warsaw, São Paulo, Zurich, Amsterdam, Mexico City, Jakarta, Dublin, Bangkok, Taipei, Istanbul, Rome, Lisbon, Frankfurt, Stockholm, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Athens, Caracas, Los Angeles, Auckland, Santiago

Beta

Beta+ world cities:

Washington, Melbourne, Johannesburg, Atlanta, Barcelona, San Francisco, Manila, Bogotá, Tel Aviv, New Delhi, Dubai, Bucharest

Beta world cities:

Oslo, Berlin, Helsinki, Geneva, Copenhagen, Riyadh, Hamburg, Cairo, Luxembourg, Bangalore, Dallas, Kuwait, Boston

Beta− world cities:

Munich, Jeddah, Miami, Lima, Kiev, Houston, Guangzhou, Beirut, Karachi, Düsseldorf, Sofia, Montevideo, Nicosia, Rio de Janeiro, Ho Chi Minh City

Gamma

Gamma+ world cities:

Montreal, Nairobi, Bratislava, Panama City, Chennai, Brisbane, Casablanca, Denver, Quito, Stuttgart, Vancouver, Zagreb, Manama, Guatemala City, Cape Town, San JosÃ
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, Minneapolis, Santo Domingo, Seattle

Gamma world cities:

Ljubljana, Shenzhen, Perth, Kolkata, Guadalajara, Antwerp, Philadelphia, Rotterdam, Amman, Portland, Lagos

Gamma - world cities
Detroit, Manchester, Wellington, Riga, Guayaquil, Edinburgh, Porto, San Salvador, St. Petersburg, Tallinn, Port Louis, San Diego, Islamabad, Birmingham, Doha, Calgary, Almaty, Columbus,


Lawl. Shanghai and Beijing Alpha???? Have you been to shanghai and beijing????
 

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It's nice to be able to go to the opera, or the symphony, or a really high-end restaurants, but unless you're making well into six-figures (meaning 500k, not 120k), it's hard to enjoy that stuff too often because it's expensive.

There are definitely other places I could live where I'd be happy, however, they're places with some charm of their own and a different set of advantages, not ****** cities with pops of 200-300k, no culture, and nothing but strip malls and chain restaurants.
 

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Originally Posted by GQgeek
It's nice to be able to go to the opera, or the symphony, or a really high-end restaurants, but unless you're making well into six-figures (meaning 500k, not 120k), it's hard to enjoy that stuff too often because it's expensive.
Nonsense. The only truly expensive aspect of living in a huge metropolis is accommodation. If you can find a decent apartment (and I grant this can be a large if), you can find and do anything else for a reasonable amount of money. Paris can be very comfortably lived in starting at €40k/year, including regular trips to superb restaurants and the opera/theatre. The principal advantage of huge world cities, in fact, is the absence of a monoculture; there are aspects that will appeal to both rich and poor.
 

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