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post #7921 of 8293
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Originally Posted by Wrenkin View Post
 

 

Not following... you weren't thin enough to get into a suit they had? And it has to do with "millenials"?

 

I'm 6', 170 lbs., so I'm not exactly Fat Albert.  The problems with "modern" suits including most of BB's current offerings include:

 

1. The jacket is too short.  It does not cover the posterior.

2. The buttoning point is too high.  It should be near the natural waist.  With a high buttoning point, the quarters flare out such that a triangle of shirt and the tip of the tie are visible above the trouser.  This problem is exacerbated because....

3. ... The trouser rise is too low.  Suit trousers are not jeans.  They should sit near the natural waist as well, enabling a nice long and crisp crease from waist to cuff.  There should also be enough room in the crotch to prevent whisker wrinkles and castration.

4. The combination of low rise and high buttoning point has led to modern ties being too long for practical use with a correctly cut suit.

5. The jacket lapel is too narrow.  Flusser: “The lapel of a well-styled suit should extend to just a fraction less than the halfway mark between the collar and shoulder line.”  This generally means 3.25 to 3.5 inches.  The Fitzgerald is 3 inches; the Milano is even slimmer.

6. The trouser is too narrow at the hem.  Again, suit trousers are not jeans.  The hem should not get stuck under the tongue of the shoe.  And the cuff should cover some of the shoe's lacing.

 

HERE is how to cut a suit, as modeled by a guy who was 5'8" with a 35" chest and 29" waist.  This suit ain't no Milano:

 

post #7922 of 8293
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Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post


I can't comment on any fit differences between the various OCBDs, but I just wanted to remind you about the "old" made-in-USA OCBD since you didn't mention it. Currently $80

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/Milano-Fit-Button-Down-Collar-Dress-Shirt/529Q,default,pd.html

 

 

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Originally Posted by Spex View Post
 

 

I wear the old OCBDs in "Extra Slim Fit" (which they renamed to Milano) in a size 15.5/35. Later I bought a Red Fleece OCBD on sale and found that the size M was almost exactly the same fit. The Red Fleece OCBDs can be had for much less than the mainline ones. Sure, they are not made in the USA, but the material doesn't seem any worse. Here are the other differences between the Red Fleece and my mainlines ones:

 

1. Red Fleece collar points are maybe 0.25" shorter

2. RF shirt has a button at the back of the collar

3. RF shirt has sleeve gauntlet buttons

4. RF shirt has 2 buttons at the cuff, instead of just one, so you can adjust the cuff tightness

5. RF shirt has a locker loop

 

These are $52.12 USD today as part of the Semi-Annual Sale.

Thanks for the responses.  One more question re. collar points before I buy some of these shirts.  Like I mentioned I really want long collar points.  Are the collar points the same length between the new MiUSA, the being phased out MiUSA and the Malaysia OCBDs? RF is probably out b/c they have really slim collars.  I googled some of the OCBD reviews, esp. the Ask Andy site, and none of them mentioned collar length.  

post #7923 of 8293
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Originally Posted by coolarrow View Post


Thanks for the responses.  One more question re. collar points before I buy some of these shirts.  Like I mentioned I really want long collar points.  Are the collar points the same length between the new MiUSA, the being phased out MiUSA and the Malaysia OCBDs? RF is probably out b/c they have really slim collars.  I googled some of the OCBD reviews, esp. the Ask Andy site, and none of them mentioned collar length.  

Unfortunately I don't have any of the new MiUSA shirts to compare my "old" ones with, nor do I own any of the Malaysian ones. However, your question may possibly be obtained by telephoning customer service. I have never asked for measurements from BB myself, but I have asked J.Crew before and was surprised when they were able to give me precise measurements for any piece. The measurements were apparently available for the reps on their inventory system.

Anyway, I'm guessing that collar point length is a common concern, and that BB customer service just might be able to answer this question for you directly. Worth a try?

I agree that Red Fleece is no good for you if you want long collar points.

Good luck smile.gif
post #7924 of 8293

I doubt they reduced the point length between the older OCBDs and this new reboot. I can sneak a peak when I'm in there next time just to check.

post #7925 of 8293

I am so sorry if this has been asked before. Any idea how much discount is given to Edward Green during the corporate sale? Cheers!

post #7926 of 8293
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Originally Posted by techaview View Post

I am so sorry if this has been asked before. Any idea how much discount is given to Edward Green during the corporate sale? Cheers!
If you can get a discount, it's 30%. They are typically excluded.
Edited by Churchill W - 6/23/16 at 10:09am
post #7927 of 8293
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Originally Posted by Churchill W View Post


If you can get a discount, it's 30%. They are typically excluded.

Sad to hear that...

post #7928 of 8293
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Originally Posted by techaview View Post

Sad to hear that...

I thought EG always is included during the corporate sale??Corporate sale happens 3-4 times a year. Stack with one of their gift card promotions (I think they were recently doing a $125 for a $150 gift card promo) and you could at 40+% off.
I generally use a cashback website and get 5%+ more back.
post #7929 of 8293
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Originally Posted by RevisIsland View Post

I thought EG always is included during the corporate sale??Corporate sale happens 3-4 times a year. Stack with one of their gift card promotions (I think they were recently doing a $125 for a $150 gift card promo) and you could at 40+% off.
I generally use a cashback website and get 5%+ more back.

EG is typically NOT included (so is Alden), though some SA might get around that... (not the ones I know unfortunatelly)
post #7930 of 8293
I see there's some Brooks Brothers Luxury suits on sale on the website. Any idea who the maker is or the quality. It appears to be different than Golden Fleece and made in Italy. Was thinking about buying one
post #7931 of 8293
I believe they're Lardini.
post #7932 of 8293
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Originally Posted by sjmin209 View Post

I believe they're Lardini.
even the $2400 ones? I know the 1818 is lardini
post #7933 of 8293
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Originally Posted by Jmm722 View Post

even the $2400 ones? I know the 1818 is lardini
If you can post a link it would get you better answer. Are you talking about black fleece? If so quality is top notch.
post #7934 of 8293
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Originally Posted by TtownMD View Post

If you can post a link it would get you better answer. Are you talking about black fleece? If so quality is top notch.
It's gone now. It wasn't black fleece either. Just called Luxury. 3 button silk, cashmere, wool blend and made in italy. Looked really good. Should've just bought it and returned if necessary
post #7935 of 8293
If it was labeled "Luxury" in the description (like this suit), then in all likelihood it was Lardini. If it was Golden Fleece, I'm not sure.
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