Originally Posted by afixedpoint
I would say I am a true 9.5, 9 on the Barrie, I wear 9UK on the 4497. It has quite a bit more volume than the Barrie last, but it is not any longer. Some guys do size down a full size though...
I agree. I'm a 'true' US9D (measured), 8.5D on the Barrie and UK8.5 (5 fitting) on the 4497S, i.e. Stow. However, I take a UK8 on the 4444, i.e. Bourton.
Originally Posted by planetarium
The 4497s last isn't particularly long, but generally more voluminous in depth and width than a dress shoe.
I tried going down a full size US/UK to compensate for the added volume and width of the 4497S, but it just ended up being too short, all while still being voluminous. 1/2 size conversion works best for me, worn with thicker socks. Ankles are held firmly in place with plenty of wiggle room for the toes. I just use a full length gel insole the few times they're worn with thinner socks.Edited by Wes Bourne - 11/28/12 at 7:04pm