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post #1246 of 1260
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

What's a military captoe model? Just a simple captoe boot ala "Superboot"? That sounds awesome. Cipresso is such a great shell color. Dark indoors, nice green shade in the sun

Anyone here kop a marmalade shell stows from retrickers?

Well, that's what I am thinking.

 

That's what he said and I asked him to clarify -- i am sure he will tomorrow, when they are open again.

 

it's probably like the Allan or this one that I have….

 

post #1247 of 1260
He is great through email-super fast response. Let me know if it goes through.
post #1248 of 1260

As someone new to Trickers and MTO group buys in general, how would this process play out? I’d post some examples of shoes I like, their features (colors, materials, etc.) then see if others are interested, and this reduces the price of each pair? Can someone lay out the process from beginning to end for me? Cheers!

post #1249 of 1260

Richard means this model: http://imgur.com/a/sFAol. It's inspired by the superdenim black shell boot from this past year. This is on the W2298 last instead of 4497s. I'd agree that the cipresso is gorgeous. I do know of a few people interested in a mogano version of this boot on /r/goodyearwelt (but probably with a darker welt).

post #1250 of 1260
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Originally Posted by rbf1138 View Post
 

As someone new to Trickers and MTO group buys in general, how would this process play out? I’d post some examples of shoes I like, their features (colors, materials, etc.) then see if others are interested, and this reduces the price of each pair? Can someone lay out the process from beginning to end for me? Cheers!


You have pretty much got it.

 

Decide what you would like (examples of what is available on the Tricker's website ... The Shoe Healer website is also wonderful for looking at some examples of what has been done in the past.

 

Once you have decided, contact Richard at The Shoe Healer and have a chat with him about it.  He will know if you are being realistic or suggesting something that might not work.  He will also be able to give you the number of orders required, a costing and a time-frame.

 

As you say, post some examples of shoes that you like and gauge interest.  When you have the numbers call Richard and confirm the order.  Each individual will then have to confirm with Richard before he pushes the green button.

 

If you would like to see how people have done it in the past, skip back through the forum.  These posts are reasonable examples:

 

Rob7333's suggestion for a pair of Cordovan Stows ... post #897

alexandchau's make-up for a pair of Woodstocks ... post #979

roadway's plans for a Minster ... post #1101

my idea for a pair of suede Burfords ... post #1012

 

Good luck.

 

MM

post #1251 of 1260
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Originally Posted by Mighty Morris View Post
 


You have pretty much got it.

 

Decide what you would like (examples of what is available on the Tricker's website ... The Shoe Healer website is also wonderful for looking at some examples of what has been done in the past.

 

Once you have decided, contact Richard at The Shoe Healer and have a chat with him about it.  He will know if you are being realistic or suggesting something that might not work.  He will also be able to give you the number of orders required, a costing and a time-frame.

 

As you say, post some examples of shoes that you like and gauge interest.  When you have the numbers call Richard and confirm the order.  Each individual will then have to confirm with Richard before he pushes the green button.

 

If you would like to see how people have done it in the past, skip back through the forum.  These posts are reasonable examples:

 

Rob7333's suggestion for a pair of Cordovan Stows ... post #897

alexandchau's make-up for a pair of Woodstocks ... post #979

roadway's plans for a Minster ... post #1101

my idea for a pair of suede Burfords ... post #1012

 

Good luck.

 

MM

Very interesting! I'm lusting after these:

http://epauletnewyork.com/collections/footwear/products/alden-for-epaulet-innsbruck-chromexcel-longwing

http://needsupply.com/mens/longwing.html

 

Prefer the Bourton last to the Barrie though (based on pictures only). That will change this week when these arrive:

http://www.endclothing.co.uk/catalog/product/view/id/241876/s/end-x-tricker-s-bourton-derby-brogue-m7346-lp/category/156/

 

and I can try Tricker's on for the first time! I'm in the US, which means I've never seen Tricker's in person. All that said, a burgundy or chromexcel longwing, maybe with a commando welt would be something I'm interested in. Maybe not very imaginative but striking just the right combo of those elements and finding them in my size is proving quite difficult.

post #1252 of 1260
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Originally Posted by rbf1138 View Post
 

Very interesting! I'm lusting after these:

http://epauletnewyork.com/collections/footwear/products/alden-for-epaulet-innsbruck-chromexcel-longwing

http://needsupply.com/mens/longwing.html

 

Prefer the Bourton last to the Barrie though (based on pictures only). That will change this week when these arrive:

http://www.endclothing.co.uk/catalog/product/view/id/241876/s/end-x-tricker-s-bourton-derby-brogue-m7346-lp/category/156/

 

and I can try Tricker's on for the first time! I'm in the US, which means I've never seen Tricker's in person. All that said, a burgundy or chromexcel longwing, maybe with a commando welt would be something I'm interested in. Maybe not very imaginative but striking just the right combo of those elements and finding them in my size is proving quite difficult.


I think that you will love your Bourton ... I have two pairs ... one in waxy suede (originally Champagne Waxy but I have since dyed them brown) and a special in Acorn with a commando sole and natural welt.  They are great shoes.

 

I have never owned Aldens but I have held them.  I prefer the build quality of Tricker's ... they are more rugged and feel to me like they will last longer.  I also prefer the shape, but then I am European.  Aldens are finer and, although it is subtle, they are more city than country to my eye.

 

Those longwings are lovely.  The longwing style is pretty rare in the UK, I think that most people consider it to be an "American" style of shoe.  That being said, Tricker's do have a longwing model, the Richard.  It is typically built on the 81 last, I believe, which is narrower than the 4444 of the Bourton etc. or the 4497s of the Stow/Woodstock etc.

 

The beauty of MTO, of course, is that you can specify the last.  So (and I am not sure if the proportions would work, but maybe worth considering) a Richard on 4444 would be a longwing with a much more European flavour than the Alden.  I wonder if anyone else on here has tried it.

 

I also think that the Tricker's country lasts are better proportioned to carry the Commando sole.  The more I think about it the more I am falling in love with the idea of this shoe!!

 

As far as being imaginative or unimaginative, as Mies van der Rohe said: "Less is more".  It takes more imagination to create something beautiful economically than by just adding everything on the menu.  I think that you are showing great imagination.

 

So, get in touch with Richard and discuss the, errrmmm, Richard.

 

And enjoy your new Bourtons when they arrive.

 

MM

post #1253 of 1260
I know I've seen long wing shoes on the 4444 before. I've got a couple pairs of long wing boots on the 4444.
post #1254 of 1260
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Originally Posted by Mighty Morris View Post
 


I think that you will love your Bourton ... I have two pairs ... one in waxy suede (originally Champagne Waxy but I have since dyed them brown) and a special in Acorn with a commando sole and natural welt.  They are great shoes.

 

I have never owned Aldens but I have held them.  I prefer the build quality of Tricker's ... they are more rugged and feel to me like they will last longer.  I also prefer the shape, but then I am European.  Aldens are finer and, although it is subtle, they are more city than country to my eye.

 

Those longwings are lovely.  The longwing style is pretty rare in the UK, I think that most people consider it to be an "American" style of shoe.  That being said, Tricker's do have a longwing model, the Richard.  It is typically built on the 81 last, I believe, which is narrower than the 4444 of the Bourton etc. or the 4497s of the Stow/Woodstock etc.

 

The beauty of MTO, of course, is that you can specify the last.  So (and I am not sure if the proportions would work, but maybe worth considering) a Richard on 4444 would be a longwing with a much more European flavour than the Alden.  I wonder if anyone else on here has tried it.

 

I also think that the Tricker's country lasts are better proportioned to carry the Commando sole.  The more I think about it the more I am falling in love with the idea of this shoe!!

 

As far as being imaginative or unimaginative, as Mies van der Rohe said: "Less is more".  It takes more imagination to create something beautiful economically than by just adding everything on the menu.  I think that you are showing great imagination.

 

So, get in touch with Richard and discuss the, errrmmm, Richard.

 

And enjoy your new Bourtons when they arrive.

 

MM

I'm going to flesh out my idea in more detail both here and then to Richard. Is there a general price for MTO and time frame for production/shipping? 

post #1255 of 1260
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Originally Posted by rbf1138 View Post
 

I'm going to flesh out my idea in more detail both here and then to Richard. Is there a general price for MTO and time frame for production/shipping? 


You will have to discuss those things with Richard.  Generally the minimum order is 6 pairs.  The cost depends on the spec, naturally.  Time frame?  That depends upon Tricker's/time of year/phase of Jupiter's moons etc., but expect it to take between eight and twelve weeks at least.

post #1256 of 1260

I just submitted my idea to Richard; I'll let you know when I hear back. 

 

In the meantime, my proposal is a longwing on the 4444 last, in either burgundy waxy calf or burgundy burnished calf, beechnut antique calf or maybe even brown chromexcel? I'm unsure yet of eyelets and sole, but I'm leaning silver or blind eyelets. 

 

A couple examples for the inspiration:

http://www.endclothing.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/TrickEnd6_2.jpg

 

http://leffot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/DSC_0011.jpg

 

http://epauletnewyork.com/collections/footwear/products/alden-for-epaulet-innsbruck-chromexcel-longwing

 

Would anyone be interested in a group buy on these? I'm going for a shoe that can be really casual yet also worn with a suit. Any suggestions or input would be most welcome! 

post #1257 of 1260
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Originally Posted by rbf1138 View Post
 

I just submitted my idea to Richard; I'll let you know when I hear back. 

 

In the meantime, my proposal is a longwing on the 4444 last, in either burgundy waxy calf or burgundy burnished calf, beechnut antique calf or maybe even brown chromexcel? I'm unsure yet of eyelets and sole, but I'm leaning silver or blind eyelets. 

 

A couple examples for the inspiration:

http://www.endclothing.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/TrickEnd6_2.jpg

 

http://leffot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/DSC_0011.jpg

 

http://epauletnewyork.com/collections/footwear/products/alden-for-epaulet-innsbruck-chromexcel-longwing

 

Would anyone be interested in a group buy on these? I'm going for a shoe that can be really casual yet also worn with a suit. Any suggestions or input would be most welcome! 


You have the beginnings of a good make-up there.

 

I shouldn't pitch in as I am not in the market for shoes right now, but what the heck?  I would go for blind eyelets (especially if you want to wear them with a suit) and I would definitely consider an edge binding.  Beechnut Antique is beautiful.  And I would also go for an interesting coloured lining.  Not seen unless they are off, of course, but will remind you every time you pull them on that they were made to order.

 

Wishing you well.

 

MM

post #1258 of 1260
Possibly nterested:
@4444 last
@longwings
@burgundy burnished or oxblood
@edge binding
@coloured lining
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post #1259 of 1260
Here's a burgundy burnished long wing boot that was done a few years ago.
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post #1260 of 1260

I'm thinking a dark colored edge rather than natural might be a good call here. Not only for aesthetics but for ease of polishing and minimizing how visible scuffs are. 

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