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Hatchgrain chukkas on Simpson. First wear. I probably should have gone down a half from my normal Simpson size to account for my narrow feet a low instep, but they fit pretty well with thick socks. I've also included a couple spoilered photos that show the finishing issues with hatchgrain. I'll have to see what happen after I apply some polish.






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@RogerP What last is that whole cut on? Rain or simpson?


It's on Rain.

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Hatchgrain chukkas on Simpson. First wear. I probably should have gone down a half from my normal Simpson size to account for my narrow feet a low instep, but they fit pretty well with thick socks. I've also included a couple spoilered photos that show the finishing issues with hatchgrain. I'll have to see what happen after I apply some polish.





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Mr. Six, I've got the same hatchgrain chukka as yours. Similar discoloration issue though probably less prominent than your pairs. I've tried to cover it up with some reddish brown shoe cream applied over the area followed by a thin layer of neutral polish. It turned out to be quite acceptable appearance-wise to me. Those lessened discolorations now give the shoe a special sort of patina...:rotflmao:

 

BTW, do you think the discolorations developed gradually after the shoes are made? Are Horween and Carmina aware of the issue? Someone( probably unlike us)  is bound to ask for refund if he found his new pair of shoe delivered in such a condition, I supposed....:hide: 

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Gah, if only they had those Forest tassel loafers in my size. The only things in the sale section that fit me are the wholecuts, and I'm not really feeling those.

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BTW, do you think the discolorations developed gradually after the shoes are made? [/IMG] 

I am sure of this, two models that I handled were discolored when I received them.
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Perhaps it's a packaging issue. I have experienced the same on other chukkas from carmina in terms of wear when I take them out of the box.

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Mr. Six, I've got the same hatchgrain chukka as yours. Similar discoloration issue though probably less prominent than your pairs. I've tried to cover it up with some reddish brown shoe cream applied over the area followed by a thin layer of neutral polish. It turned out to be quite acceptable appearance-wise to me. Those lessened discolorations now give the shoe a special sort of patina...rotflmao.gif

BTW, do you think the discolorations developed gradually after the shoes are made? Are Horween and Carmina aware of the issue? Someone( probably unlike us)  is bound to ask for refund if he found his new pair of shoe delivered in such a condition, I supposed....peepwall%5B1%5D.gif 

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I am sure of this, two models that I handled were discolored when I received them.
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Perhaps it's a packaging issue. I have experienced the same on other chukkas from carmina in terms of wear when I take them out of the box.

I think that some of it is the result of friction while the shoes are in transit (e.g. the spot on the side of the shoe). But take a look at the photo of the tongue. That's just the laces rubbing against the leather, which would happen regardless of shipping.
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Perhaps it's a packaging issue. I have experienced the same on other chukkas from carmina in terms of wear when I take them out of the box.

 

 

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I think that some of it is the result of friction while the shoes are in transit (e.g. the spot on the side of the shoe). But take a look at the photo of the tongue. That's just the laces rubbing against the leather, which would happen regardless of shipping.


Yeah, I tend to agree on friction being the trigger. But the root of the problem probably lies in the dyeing/grain pressing process/the leather dye used by Horween.

I happened to have quite a few pairs from Carmina and shoes made with scrotchgrain leather from other shoemakers. This chukka , like all others from Carmina very well packaged with foam paddings inside the shoe box, was the only one with the discoloration issue right out of the box. :brick:

 

Those discolorations made on the tongue from the lace are probably inevitable and are found in almost all the shoes with laces after some wears but none developed as quick as those on that hatchgrain chukka... Having said that, I'm in love with the combination of chukka + Simpson last + hatch grain leather so much so that I decided to keep it. Should have let Leaves know of the issue so that he can reflect it to Horween though

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It is a hell of a combo. Enjoy
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Navy shell wholecut for me today:

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We like your style Roger! :nodding:

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Snuff suede wingtips via Farfetch.






Edited by Mr. Six - 2/13/14 at 11:43pm
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very nice, great combo
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What Namor said
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Wow, they look sooooo much better in your pics than they do on farfetch. Congrats! Did they ship in a Carmina box and can you confirm the last?

UG thanks - the PTB version is very handsome as well.
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Yeah, I tend to agree on friction being the trigger. But the root of the problem probably lies in the dyeing/grain pressing process/the leather dye used by Horween.

I happened to have quite a few pairs from Carmina and shoes made with scrotchgrain leather from other shoemakers. This chukka , like all others from Carmina very well packaged with foam paddings inside the shoe box, was the only one with the discoloration issue right out of the box. :brick:

 

Those discolorations made on the tongue from the lace are probably inevitable and are found in almost all the shoes with laces after some wears but none developed as quick as those on that hatchgrain chukka... Having said that, I'm in love with the combination of chukka + Simpson last + hatch grain leather so much so that I decided to keep it. Should have let Leaves know of the issue so that he can reflect it to Horween though


It looks like it is because the finish is applied on by Carmina to darken the hatchgrain they get in from Horween. Similar to if you add a darker polish to a lighter shoe, you can scratch it off.

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