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post #18256 of 18854
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post

^ I do and I've survived... 😏

 

Bet your shoes stink after a few wears though....

post #18257 of 18854
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Originally Posted by insy View Post

Jesus, never knew those are available for men 😯 Already put two Loafers on eBay figuring I won't be able to wear them, obviously taking them off now 👌

Are there any brands for those socks, such as Bresciani, anyone could recommend? I just found out Falke offers them, but their quality is really bad nowadays.

I used to buy Burlington "invisible" socks. Quality is amazing, but so is the price... Then I discovered an underwear chain of shops called "Intimissimi" that sells some men stuff and these socks are great at 1/3 of the price...
Just make sure they have a small "rubber" at the heel facing the skin. It prevents the sock from slipping and it really makes a difference.
post #18258 of 18854
I received an answer from Betty about the issue with my Norwegian Derbies. Basically she's saying that it looks like I was walking with them on water.

What exactly does she mean by that? No, I wasn't swimming with them and yes I was wearing them during rainy days. She's saying it can be solved by giving some marron cream and cotton cloth. Could anyone give me an opinion about what exactly it is?

Overall I am pretty disappointed by that type of customer care. I've received the shoes early July, and I was on holidays basically the whole August. Which makes it two months of occasional wear. Winter is yet to come, I am a bit worried already, what if it snows?

I was thinking about ordering another Cordovan Oxford or Derby but will most likey take a look at EB.
post #18259 of 18854
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Originally Posted by insy View Post

I received an answer from Betty about the issue with my Norwegian Derbies. Basically she's saying that it looks like I was walking with them on water.

What exactly does she mean by that? No, I wasn't swimming with them and yes I was wearing them during rainy days. She's saying it can be solved by giving some marron cream and cotton cloth. Could anyone give me an opinion about what exactly it is?

Overall I am pretty disappointed by that type of customer care. I've received the shoes early July, and I was on holidays basically the whole August. Which makes it two months of occasional wear. Winter is yet to come, I am a bit worried already, what if it snows?

I was thinking about ordering another Cordovan Oxford or Derby but will most likey take a look at EB.

Honestly, it doesn't seem like an unreasonable response. She told you how to address the problem. seems like case closed, unless you were expecting them to make you a new pair.

I don't think that Bonafe shoes will necessarily react better when worn in adverse conditions. These are leather dress shoes, after all, and not dedicated rain or snow boots or wellingtons.

Best of luck!
post #18260 of 18854
Well, those shoes are made on a Dainite Sole. What is that sole made for? We are talking about Norwegians, I don't think they are that dressy to be worn with a suit, or am I way off?

I admit, I am new to class shoes but I guess a Chukka Boot on a Dainite Sole (CJ Brecon for example) is made for Fall/Winter and should resist walks through rainy days easily, right?

So what exactly is the difference between them? Or are both dress shoes and just for the office and the carpet?

I mean why manufacture shoes on Dainite Soles in the first place if they are not wearable when it's raining outside? Isn't Dainite supposed to protect the shoe?
post #18261 of 18854
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Originally Posted by insy View Post

Well, those shoes are made on a Dainite Sole. What is that sole made for? We are talking about Norwegians, I don't think they are that dressy to be worn with a suit, or am I way off?

I admit, I am new to class shoes but I guess a Chukka Boot on a Dainite Sole (CJ Brecon for example) is made for Fall/Winter and should resist walks through rainy days easily, right?

So what exactly is the difference between them? Or are both dress shoes and just for the office and the carpet?

I mean why manufacture shoes on Dainite Soles in the first place if they are not wearable when it's raining outside? Isn't Dainite supposed to protect the shoe?

Please take into account the language barrier here, you are buying shoes from a
Spanish country. Also, I think it's more a discoloration problem at the thin leather midsole between the welt and Dainite sole, which I think it's logic with wear and tear. Just my two cents
post #18262 of 18854
Dainite sole is what'll get you through in a somewhat limited situation: it's no longer raining but the pavement is wet.

If it's raining then while your sole may be fine, the upper could get soaked through, and the mid sole somewhat wet, which over the long term is not good.

Your shoes show water staining on the uppers, so they've seen a bit of water already.

The flaking that you see at the sole edge has happened to my Carmina boots as well, but they're chromexcel with a rather thick Victoria rubber sole, and so they've survived storms and snow with no problems. A quick polish of the sole edge with a toothbrush and they're back to new!

Best bet: get some fully waterproof timberlands for the wet stuff. Here in Canada you pretty much have no choice in winter!
post #18263 of 18854
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Originally Posted by insy View Post

Well, those shoes are made on a Dainite Sole. What is that sole made for? We are talking about Norwegians, I don't think they are that dressy to be worn with a suit, or am I way off?

I admit, I am new to class shoes but I guess a Chukka Boot on a Dainite Sole (CJ Brecon for example) is made for Fall/Winter and should resist walks through rainy days easily, right?

So what exactly is the difference between them? Or are both dress shoes and just for the office and the carpet?

I mean why manufacture shoes on Dainite Soles in the first place if they are not wearable when it's raining outside? Isn't Dainite supposed to protect the shoe?

A Dainite sole will give you more traction in wet conditions, sure. But are still Goodyear welted footwear, which is most definitely not waterproof manufacture. I wouldn't expect them to fall apart in a light rain (and by your pictures it seems like they haven't, the midsole edge just needs some conditioning and dressing) but I would not purposefully wear them in repeated downpours or heavy snow, when you have to walk through inches of water or slush, as this type of shoe is not specifically meant for that. Best to wear dedicated foul weather footwear in the most adverse conditions.

And by "dress shoe" I mean purchased mainly for its style and appearance, not for a dedicated foul weather function.
post #18264 of 18854
Thank you very much for the detailed answers. While reading them a lot right away made sense. I had no idea there was any difference between the Dainite and Victoria Sole, other than it's look to be honest. My problem is that I am walking quite a bit with my dog through parks and I prefer to not switch shoes for that period of time. I knew leather soles won't work through snowy parks but figured Dainite should be fine ☺️
I was also mostly concerned about the sole rather than the upper part. Pretty much thought the upper leather should be fine if it rains.

Other than that, I've just tried to polish them. On the site it says they are in Chestnut. Are there many different types of that color? Looks like my polish and the shoes don't match 🙁 Edit: my polish says it's Chestnut btw


Edited by insy - 8/30/16 at 9:47am
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Wanted to get your opinion on something - I ordered two belts from Carmina directly: 1 Navy Suede and 1 Tobacco Suede.  The Navy suede is perfect, however the Tobacco suede belt actually looks like snuff and doesn't match my tobacco chukkas at all.

 

I emailed Customer service, and they were apologetic and admitted it was their error.  However, all they are offering is for me to purchase the Tobacco suede belt for 50% off the regular price - and keep the Snuff suede belt.

 

Do you think the colour is that off for me to complain about this and pay more money for the 'right' tobacco suede belt? 

 

See difference in natural lighting: 

post #18266 of 18854
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Originally Posted by Cityplace View Post
 

Wanted to get your opinion on something - I ordered two belts from Carmina directly: 1 Navy Suede and 1 Tobacco Suede.  The Navy suede is perfect, however the Tobacco suede belt actually looks like snuff and doesn't match my tobacco chukkas at all.

 

I emailed Customer service, and they were apologetic and admitted it was their error.  However, all they are offering is for me to purchase the Tobacco suede belt for 50% off the regular price - and keep the Snuff suede belt.

 

Do you think the colour is that off for me to complain about this and pay more money for the 'right' tobacco suede belt? 

 

See difference in natural lighting: 

 

 

Wow, that is flat out terrible customer service.  was debating purchasing a tobacco suede belt from them myself, but i will definitely not be doing so now.

post #18267 of 18854
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Originally Posted by Cityplace View Post
 

Wanted to get your opinion on something - I ordered two belts from Carmina directly: 1 Navy Suede and 1 Tobacco Suede.  The Navy suede is perfect, however the Tobacco suede belt actually looks like snuff and doesn't match my tobacco chukkas at all.

 

I emailed Customer service, and they were apologetic and admitted it was their error.  However, all they are offering is for me to purchase the Tobacco suede belt for 50% off the regular price - and keep the Snuff suede belt.

 

Do you think the colour is that off for me to complain about this and pay more money for the 'right' tobacco suede belt? 

 

See difference in natural lighting: 

 

That definitely looks like snuff to me.  I guess with the shipping factored in, it's cheaper for them to offer you a discount on the correct colour, but to leave you with a belt you didn't ask for is not great customer service.  Ideally, they would tell you to keep the snuff belt and send you a tobacco belt for free. 

 

If it was a 34, I'd take it off your hands.

post #18268 of 18854
I would keep that one and buy the other one for half the price, unless you won't be using it at all in the fiture. Carminas belts seem solid even though one suede belt was a bit rough on the sides.

Actually, are they using the same leather for their belts as well as their shoes? I remember asking Betty about it when ordering shoes+belt and they said no. Might not be a big deal anyway I guess?
post #18269 of 18854
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Originally Posted by Allen Dreadmon View Post
 

 

That definitely looks like snuff to me.  I guess with the shipping factored in, it's cheaper for them to offer you a discount on the correct colour, but to leave you with a belt you didn't ask for is not great customer service.  Ideally, they would tell you to keep the snuff belt and send you a tobacco belt for free. 

 

If it was a 34, I'd take it off your hands.

 

Definitely agree it's not great customer service when they're clearly the ones who made the error.

 

FWIW, Carmina belts are really easy to cut down because of the way they're structured.

post #18270 of 18854
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Originally Posted by Cityplace View Post
 

Wanted to get your opinion on something - I ordered two belts from Carmina directly: 1 Navy Suede and 1 Tobacco Suede.  The Navy suede is perfect, however the Tobacco suede belt actually looks like snuff and doesn't match my tobacco chukkas at all.

 

I emailed Customer service, and they were apologetic and admitted it was their error.  However, all they are offering is for me to purchase the Tobacco suede belt for 50% off the regular price - and keep the Snuff suede belt.

 

Do you think the colour is that off for me to complain about this and pay more money for the 'right' tobacco suede belt? 

 

See difference in natural lighting: 

 

Tell Betty you want to return the snuff suede belt, but still want them to ship a tobacco belt at full price.  They should arrange (and pay) for the pick-up of the belt you are returning.  They've done that for me in the past when they shipped me the wrong shoes.

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