Its too tightly for me, same for Soller. Rain is very close, Llubi as well. i I think that means I have a low instep?! (Pretty new to high quality shoes ☹️) I hope the Forest works better, Oscar seemed ok.
CJ Tetbury has a decent lacing, too bad they are a bit too long, therefore on ebay.
Im wondering which other brands around 400-500 EUR are worth looking at, which can compete with CJ and Carmina?
Perhaps you could give Simpson or Alcuda one more try? Not many competitors outshine Carmina in terms of cost/quality esp Shell.