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post #17521 of 18851

Searched and did not find an answer to this question (which I'm sure has been asked): AE 65 to Carmina Detroit: -1 or -1.5 sizes?

 

Should also mention that I am -1, 65 to Inca and tried -1, 65 to Rain... but the heel fit is more like a friend hug than a girlfriend hug.

 

Which is a nice way of saying 8 year olds giggle when I walk by in Rains.  Think Robin Williams, walking down stairs, during his Live at the Met special... post ortho-procto-scope.  

post #17522 of 18851
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Originally Posted by tkebh979 View Post
 

Searched and did not find an answer to this question (which I'm sure has been asked): AE 65 to Carmina Detroit: -1 or -1.5 sizes?

 

Should also mention that I am -1, 65 to Inca and tried -1, 65 to Rain... but the heel fit is more like a friend hug than a girlfriend hug.

 

Which is a nice way of saying 8 year olds giggle when I walk by in Rains.  Think Robin Williams, walking down stairs, during his Live at the Met special... post ortho-procto-scope.  

 

Based off your Rain assessment, I would say -1.5 for Detroit would work best for you.

post #17523 of 18851
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Originally Posted by bm93 View Post
 

 

Based off your Rain assessment, I would say -1.5 for Detroit would work best for you.

I take the same size in rain and detroit. In my experience detroit is about a size D width on the 5 last. 

post #17524 of 18851
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Originally Posted by oxfordsandties View Post
 

I take the same size in rain and detroit. In my experience detroit is about a size D width on the 5 last. 

 

I have never before heard of the Detroit last being of comparable with to the AE 5 last, which is reasonably narrow. Detroit is supposed to be one of Carmina's widest lasts (I know this because @peppercorn78, another duck-footed brother, swears by this last). A bunch of retailers say it's so wide and long that they recommend people size down 0.5 size from their Rain and Forest size. Pretty sure peppercorn also takes half size down from his Rain size. 

 

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post #17525 of 18851
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Originally Posted by rbhan12 View Post
 

 

I have never before heard of the Detroit last being of comparable with to the AE 5 last, which is reasonably narrow. Detroit is supposed to be one of Carmina's widest lasts (I know this because @peppercorn78, another duck-footed brother, swears by this last). A bunch of retailers say it's so wide and long that they recommend people size down 0.5 size from their Rain and Forest size. Pretty sure peppercorn also takes half size down from his Rain size. 

 

Not sure, may

I won't question @oxfordsandties 's experience with the Detroit last but mine is different. I can tolerate an E width on the AE 65 but EE is better in an oxford.  E is just about right in the rare 65 blucher.  The Detroit is just about right for me in a blucher. 

 

So, for me, I'd peg the Detroit in a blucher to be one width wider than a 65 last blucher.  Also - for me - one size shorter than my US size.  In other words, US 10.5E for the AE Black Hills (65 last) translates to a Detroit LWB in 9.5.

 

BTW, I'm talking about the "normal" Detroit last.  I seem to recall reading one can special order a "Double Detroit" or something that is an extra size wider.

post #17526 of 18851
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Originally Posted by rbhan12 View Post
 

 

I have never before heard of the Detroit last being of comparable with to the AE 5 last, which is reasonably narrow. Detroit is supposed to be one of Carmina's widest lasts (I know this because @peppercorn78, another duck-footed brother, swears by this last). A bunch of retailers say it's so wide and long that they recommend people size down 0.5 size from their Rain and Forest size. Pretty sure peppercorn also takes half size down from his Rain size. 

 

Not sure, may


Responding to the duck-foot bat signal here.

 

Here are a few photos for comparison. I'm sorry that they're not that great, but it's the best I can fudge at the moment (4 days out of cervical spinal surgery) with my mobility and strength restrictions.

 

My sizing is as follows:

 

AE (all lasts) 10.5 EEE

Alden Barrie 10.5 EE

Alden Van, TruBalance 10.5 E

Carmina Detroit 10 EEE (extra wide version)

Lobb 7000 10 EE

Bonafe 946 10 H

Vass P2 43.5 H

Vass F, U 44.5 H

 

Here is Detroit next to Rain, both in size 10 extra wide EEE MTO-only versions. As you can see, Rain has a slightly shorter in overall length than Detroit. What's most interesting is that the ball of the foot sits further back on Rain than on Detroit. Combine that with the much more sharply tapered toe, and you can see why some of us with wide toes would need to take .5 longer in Rain Vs. Detroit. Not necessarily true for everyone.

 

I probably should have gone up to 10.5 EEE on Rain for as good a fit as possible. However, I find the Rain heel on EEE width MEGA wide. So roomy, in fact, that I get really bad chafing blisters on my ankles from wearing this boot (the reason I'm selling it). So in my opinion, even though technically Rain has a wide midfoot, the long narrow toe and wide heel make it a difficult fit for some of us whose feet are like a duck's.

 

Detroit EEE is a very good last for me. I find it fits similarly to AE 5-65 EEE one half size down, but with a more rounded toe and roomier heel. I would say the EEE version is closest in shape and size to an Alden Barrie EE one half size down.

 

Good Luck!

 

 

 

 

post #17527 of 18851
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post
 


Responding to the duck-foot bat signal here.

 

Here are a few photos for comparison. I'm sorry that they're not that great, but it's the best I can fudge at the moment (4 days out of cervical spinal surgery) with my mobility and strength restrictions.

 

My sizing is as follows:

 

AE (all lasts) 10.5 EEE

Alden Barrie 10.5 EE

Alden Van, TruBalance 10.5 E

Carmina Detroit 10 EEE (extra wide version)

Lobb 7000 10 EE

Bonafe 946 10 H

Vass P2 43.5 H

Vass F, U 44.5 H

 

Here is Detroit next to Rain, both in size 10 extra wide EEE MTO-only versions. As you can see, Rain has a slightly shorter in overall length than Detroit. What's most interesting is that the ball of the foot sits further back on Rain than on Detroit. Combine that with the much more sharply tapered toe, and you can see why some of us with wide toes would need to take .5 longer in Rain Vs. Detroit. Not necessarily true for everyone.

 

>snip< 

 

Good Luck!


 

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This is great info - thanks for the overhead visual comparison.

 

To your YMMV point... I attempted the 65 -.5 option with my first attempt (thanks @Watchman1) and it felt like I was wearing my dad's shoes.  And I was 12. Too big in the toes, ball, heel, arch, everywhere while the laces were drawn to their limit.  Could also fit two fingers longitudinally behind my heel - at that point, the ball and arch worked.

 

I'm eyeing up another attempt... and it's a decision between non-MTO brogued shells, either on the 65 or Detroit.  Almost a new cat or old cat (for the SFW crowd) situation, to paraphrase Chris Rock.

post #17528 of 18851
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Originally Posted by member2000r View Post
 

Wonder if there is enough interest to do a Waxy kudu frankenstitch boot rerun. Plans to via @steveyoo1983

Model: Frankenstitch captoe boots
Last: Oscar
Material: Natural waxy kudu
Sole: Danite sole, light antiqued or natural edge trim, 360 natural stormwelt

Two now

@member2000r @BenLeaman

 

 

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Originally Posted by ptr1988 View Post
 

Im interested, how much?

 

Confirmed with @steveyoo1983 , GMTO retail price will be US$575 with free worldwide shipping

post #17529 of 18851

Does anyone know which Carmina Last is similar to Rain but has a bit more space around the toe?

 

I can wear the chukkas for hours but it just doesn't feel very comfortable. Maybe it needs a bit more time?

 

I have pictures attached of the Carmina and the Floris Van Bommel. The Van Bommel fits perfectly and it actually seems like the Rain last is even wider than the Bommel but has less room around the toe?!

 

Is widening the Rain to make it more comfortable an option? I just have trouble finding an alternative to Carmina in general. For example the Van Bommel cost around 270 while Carmina is about 450.

 

Here is a link to a van Bommel Chukka which has the same last in case the pictures are taken poorly :)

 

post #17530 of 18851
Carmina just launched their new US website with all payments being processed in USD, everything ships out of New York, and there are free returns Update: It looks like returns may be 35$ based on the actual product pages. There goes my paycheck....

http://www.carminashoemaker.us/
Edited by mkenny28 - 4/29/16 at 11:41am
post #17531 of 18851
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Originally Posted by mkenny28 View Post

Carmina just launched their new US website with all payments being processed in USD, everything ships out of New York, and there are free returns! There goes my paycheck....

http://www.carminashoemaker.us/

Placed an order immediately. I am no longer afraid to get my Detroit sizing right.

In other news - Ruby Shell on Simpson today:

post #17532 of 18851
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Originally Posted by mkenny28 View Post

Carmina just launched their new US website with all payments being processed in USD, everything ships out of New York, and there are free returns! There goes my paycheck....

http://www.carminashoemaker.us/

 

Website says $35 for returns, but i haven't read the fine print yet.

 

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Originally Posted by JSO1 View Post


Placed an order immediately. I am no longer afraid to get my Detroit sizing right.

In other news - Ruby Shell on Simpson today:

Wow, those are really ruby red.Like that combo..

post #17533 of 18851
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Originally Posted by Gabru View Post
 

 

Website says $35 for returns, but i haven't read the fine print yet.

 

 

http://www.carminashoemaker.us/shipping-return

 

Doesn't say anything about a $35 fee for returns, only a $35 charge for shipping for orders under $180.

 

Quote:
 

How to return an item

Returning an item with Carmina are easy:

 

1) Write an email to info.usa@carminashoemaker.us informing us about the return and wait for one of our agents to approve it. If you want to exchange a product, let us know so we can hold the new item for you. In the email, make sure you include your full name, the order number and the products you want to return.

 

Once the return has been approved you will receive a Fedex return label.

 

 

* Returns will only be accepted and processed if they are approved by one of our agents.

 

2) Pack your item securely, preferably using the original mailing box. If you don't have the original, use a sturdy box. The parcel must include the original packaging, all merchandising products (flannel bags, sponges, shoelaces, etc.) and the receipt.

 

3) Ship your parcel via Fedex.

 

Once we get the parcel, it will take us 3-5 days to process the return.

post #17534 of 18851
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Originally Posted by JSO1 View Post
 

 

http://www.carminashoemaker.us/shipping-return

 

Doesn't say anything about a $35 fee for returns, only a $35 charge for shipping for orders under $180.

 

 

It's confusing as on the product page , you see that under delivery and Returns

 

post #17535 of 18851

here is the screenshot -

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