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post #16921 of 18852
Thanks for all the responses guys! I didn't expect so much feedback and advice, I appreciate all of it. I agree that it's odd I fit so differently in both lasts, I'm hoping I can try a few more and nail down my fit.





Those are Inca wholecuts in question. What do you guys think? They feel significantly better than the Rain last, but I'm not sure how much of a V shape in the lacing is considered acceptable.
post #16922 of 18852
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Originally Posted by CaptainTohm View Post

Thanks for all the responses guys! I didn't expect so much feedback and advice, I appreciate all of it. I agree that it's odd I fit so differently in both lasts, I'm hoping I can try a few more and nail down my fit.



Those are Inca wholecuts in question. What do you guys think? They feel significantly better than the Rain last, but I'm not sure how much of a V shape in the lacing is considered acceptable.

 

 

Looks like too much V to me, but if you're ok with it then I suppose that's what's important. Maybe you need a half size up? Either your instep is of legendary height or the shoes are too small. 

post #16923 of 18852
Can someone offer any insight on the shipping to US addresses? I placed my order last year and they shipped out, via Correos in January. According to the Correos website the item was delivered on February 17, 2016, but the shoes were not delivered to my house. What shipping company typically delivers the shoes once they arrive in the US? Is Correos saying that the shoes were delivered to my house? I appreciate any insight or help. Tracking information below:

Shipment Tracking
Mailing code: CN100705246ES
Dates Statuses
28/01/2016 Pre-registrado
28/01/2016 Accepted
02/02/2016 Dispatch from the point of origin international office
05/02/2016 Delivery to the destination international office
17/02/2016 Delivery has been dispatched from change of destination office
17/02/2016 Delivered
post #16924 of 18852

You say the Inca last fits better? In terms of instep?  I didn't realize they were that much different. If you are looking for a brand with a higher instep, you might want to try Bonafe.

 

Edit, just saw the inca last pics, I need to read farther first. Both seem like the instep is too low. Try sizing up or at least get a wider size. Again, Bonafe would probably be better if you like the length as is.

 

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Originally Posted by CaptainTohm View Post

Sorry for the double post, but I thought I'd get some feedback on the width/instep fit of my Rains.

I realize a blurry picture with flash doesn't do much to highlight the beauty of the shoes, but it does show how wide of a V the laces make.
  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


What do you guys think? Salvageable with a little wear and breaking in? Or should I return them?
post #16925 of 18852
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Were the oxfords with a toe pinch a pair of captoes by any chance? The reason I ask is I have a pair of Rain wholecuts that fit beautifully with no pain at all, but my pair of Rain balmoral captoe boots have the same toe pinch you speak of after wearing them for a few hours, though only in the left foot. I don't know what would cause it other than the captoe, considering the pinch is felt right below it and there's nothing of that nature on my wholecuts. Very odd.

I have the EXACT same experience.  Rain cap-toes fit okay, little snug at the toe box, tight across the instep at the end of the day when my feet swell.  Rain wingtip **shell**, tighter everywhere and pinch my big toe knuckle (I shove oversize lasted trees in them to be more comfortable).  Laces can fully close on both my Rain lasted shoes.  Inca, roomy enough at the toes great heel fit and the instep is SNUG.  The real answer for me is probably to wear thin socks only.  My dilemma is I'm trying to find a mid/dark brown all around shoe I that's really comfortable.  And I'm hesitant to take a flyer on another brand, yet I know the Carminas aren't a perfect fit for me...

post #16926 of 18852

Does anyone know if a Derby design Vs an Oxford design, both in Rain last, would the Derby have a more forgiving instep?  Anyone have firsthand experience with this?

post #16927 of 18852
I just emailed The Armoury (where I purchased my Carminas from) asking if I could hang on to the Incas while ordering a half size up to compare them side-by-side. Since the rain is such a rough fit for me, maybe I'm just a half size larger in Carmina than I thought.
post #16928 of 18852
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Originally Posted by CaptainTohm View Post

I just emailed The Armoury (where I purchased my Carminas from) asking if I could hang on to the Incas while ordering a half size up to compare them side-by-side. Since the rain is such a rough fit for me, maybe I'm just a half size larger in Carmina than I thought.

Based on the posted pictures, I think that V is too wide. If the fit is good, I would say this last is not the best for your foot shape. 

 

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Originally Posted by Sactogeoff View Post
 

Does anyone know if a Derby design Vs an Oxford design, both in Rain last, would the Derby have a more forgiving instep?  Anyone have firsthand experience with this?

It's more forgiving in the sense that if the instep is too low on a derby, I won't show as much when laced up as opposed to the V-shape you see on an oxford.

post #16929 of 18852
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Originally Posted by bm93 View Post

Were the oxfords with a toe pinch a pair of captoes by any chance? The reason I ask is I have a pair of Rain wholecuts that fit beautifully with no pain at all, but my pair of Rain balmoral captoe boots have the same toe pinch you speak of after wearing them for a few hours, though only in the left foot. I don't know what would cause it other than the captoe, considering the pinch is felt right below it and there's nothing of that nature on my wholecuts. Very odd.

Yes, they are captoes, but the thing is, I have other captoes in rain that don't give that problem.
I also have a pair of captoe boots in size 8 (half a size smaller) that also doesn't give that problem.
Ah well, such is the peril of machine made shoes.
post #16930 of 18852
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Originally Posted by ThunderMarch View Post

Yes, they are captoes, but the thing is, I have other captoes in rain that don't give that problem.
I also have a pair of captoe boots in size 8 (half a size smaller) that also doesn't give that problem.
Ah well, such is the peril of machine made shoes.
It can also happen with handmade right?
post #16931 of 18852
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Originally Posted by CaptainTohm View Post

I just emailed The Armoury (where I purchased my Carminas from) asking if I could hang on to the Incas while ordering a half size up to compare them side-by-side. Since the rain is such a rough fit for me, maybe I'm just a half size larger in Carmina than I thought.

 

It looks to me like you're putting your foot into the smallest size you can. I have a hard time believing your instep is THAT high. I've been told I have a high instep and I can't get the laces on my rain shoes and boots to close. 

 

I think a half size up is the way to go, maybe even a full size. 

post #16932 of 18852
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Originally Posted by vmss View Post

It can also happen with handmade right?

True. I've had some issues with Vass.
Never with Enzo though
post #16933 of 18852
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Originally Posted by CaptainTohm View Post

I just emailed The Armoury (where I purchased my Carminas from) asking if I could hang on to the Incas while ordering a half size up to compare them side-by-side. Since the rain is such a rough fit for me, maybe I'm just a half size larger in Carmina than I thought.

 

This.  Rain and Inca are two fairly different lasts.  Inca has a low instep while Rain is a high volume shoe that accommodates high insteps well.  The fact you have the same v in both leads me to believe you ordered the wrong size.

post #16934 of 18852
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

This.  Rain and Inca are two fairly different lasts.  Inca has a low instep while Rain is a high volume shoe that accommodates high insteps well.  The fact you have the same v in both leads me to believe you ordered the wrong size.

Interesting. My length works in this size, so I think my problem may stem from having rather short feet for my width. I've ordered a half size up, I think a full size would make the length way too long, and I'll report back.

Thanks for all the advice! It's definitely helped a lot.
post #16935 of 18852

Gentlemen,

 

I don't know why I am not ordering a pair of Carmina Cordovan Balmoral Boots right now...

 

Literally no restraint...

 

Must resist.....ah...the agony....

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