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Originally Posted by AHS View Post

I'm excited to try the burger last. So far I haven't been able to find a good last fit for me with carmina. frown.gif

Hi,

Do you have narrow feet, low instep, what exactly?

If you don't mind me asking where are you going to try the buger last?

Cheers

Dimitris
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Originally Posted by Carmina Newbie View Post
 

Hi all,

 

I am new to the world of classic shoes world and really don't know where to start... Seeing all the nice complements about Carmina and thinking of getting a pair for my new job :) So here are some of the questions I have and wish you all gents can help:

 

- For the style, I like Wingtip Oxfords.  But all the technical terms just drive me nuts... (813, 922, Forest, Rain, Semi/Full Brogue, etc).  Just wonder is there any sites or threads explains all these jangles

- I am living in Hong Kong and seems nobody carries Carmina in town. Learned that the sizings and fits maybe varies from different person so any suggestion on the shoes comparison (IE compare to sport shoes or other brands like Gucci or Ferragamo which they have physical shops in HK).   

- I will have a b-trip to London in April.  Any shops or shopping malls carry bigger stocks for the brand?

 

Cheers,

 

 

As an idea...While Carmina is a quality product for a good price...The U.K is rather famous for shoes in their own right and you could probably find a few good similiar quality/priced U.K. brands that you can try on right there in the shop while in London. Barker & Church's might be a bit pricier...We'd have to double check with the Brits but I believe higher end Loake (1880?) and Herring 1966 are about the same price/quality as Carmina... and they'd probably make a nice souvenir of your trip.

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Originally Posted by Carmina Newbie View Post

Hi all,

I am new to the world of classic shoes world and really don't know where to start... Seeing all the nice complements about Carmina and thinking of getting a pair for my new job smile.gif So here are some of the questions I have and wish you all gents can help:

- For the style, I like Wingtip Oxfords.  But all the technical terms just drive me nuts... (813, 922, Forest, Rain, Semi/Full Brogue, etc).  Just wonder is there any sites or threads explains all these jangles
- I am living in Hong Kong and seems nobody carries Carmina in town. Learned that the sizings and fits maybe varies from different person so any suggestion on the shoes comparison (IE compare to sport shoes or other brands like Gucci or Ferragamo which they have physical shops in HK).   
- I will have a b-trip to London in April.  Any shops or shopping malls carry bigger stocks for the brand?

Cheers,

Check out The Armoury and Tassels. Both are in HK and respectable retailers, Tassels is a specialist shoe store while The Armoury @JeffArmoury is a haberdashery. Support you local retailers.
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Originally Posted by Carmina Newbie View Post
 

Hi all,

 

I am new to the world of classic shoes world and really don't know where to start... Seeing all the nice complements about Carmina and thinking of getting a pair for my new job :) So here are some of the questions I have and wish you all gents can help:

 

- For the style, I like Wingtip Oxfords.  But all the technical terms just drive me nuts... (813, 922, Forest, Rain, Semi/Full Brogue, etc).  Just wonder is there any sites or threads explains all these jangles

- I am living in Hong Kong and seems nobody carries Carmina in town. Learned that the sizings and fits maybe varies from different person so any suggestion on the shoes comparison (IE compare to sport shoes or other brands like Gucci or Ferragamo which they have physical shops in HK).   

- I will have a b-trip to London in April.  Any shops or shopping malls carry bigger stocks for the brand?

 

Cheers,


As to your other questions....There is a wealth of info out there and I'm sure you could find it all on this site....As to last (forest, Rain, etc) these are blocks of wood that shoes are shaped on...A shoe on the rain last will have a different appearence and profile than a shoe on the forest. I believe carmina's website has side by side photos and descriptions of all lasts.. Resellers carrying Carmina are also a good source of info on lasts and sizing...a quick email or phone call should handle the problem...

 

Here...I hunted down a photo comparing the different Carmina lasts...

 

 

Just as we have the terms plain toe and cap-toe, broguing is a term we use for the punching on the shoe..  Wingtip Oxfords are an example of a full brogue whereas a med cap-toe would be considered as a half or semi-brogue

 

These  Carmina "short wing" oxfords (also known as a Balmoral) are the perfect example of a full brogue.

 

 

While these medallion cap-toe oxfords are considered as semi-brogues......

 

Take a good look at the shape of the previous 2 shoes..They are on the Rain last...They are sleek looking, the toe takes a certain shape ("chisled"). These shoes were formed on the rain last....Now compare them to these  Carmina perforated cap-toes that were formed on the Forest last....

 

The toes are round(er). The shoe carries much more of a profile.It's a completely different shoe...and this is why we speak of the different lasts. Now if you had a size 12 in both of those last, which one would you think is roomier on your foot? The forest, right? Sooo. If a size 12 Forest is snug on you...you would probably want to consider ordering a size 12.5 in the Rain last...are you following me so far?

 

Now take a look at the broguing on these shoes....From the toe it comes across the shoe and slopes down at the half way point....These are called "short wings"

 


Whereas when the broguing continues all the way down the side of the shoe, we call them "longwings"....

 

 

This chart is nice for beginers although a bit basic. I personally disagree that monks/double monks are less formal than derbies/bluchers. I pair suits with monks/double monks...yet I would never do so with a derby/blucher.

 


Edited by justonemore - Today at 6:47 am
post #16715 of 16721
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Originally Posted by Carmina Newbie View Post
 

Hi all,

 

I am new to the world of classic shoes world and really don't know where to start... Seeing all the nice complements about Carmina and thinking of getting a pair for my new job :) So here are some of the questions I have and wish you all gents can help:

 

- For the style, I like Wingtip Oxfords.  But all the technical terms just drive me nuts... (813, 922, Forest, Rain, Semi/Full Brogue, etc).  Just wonder is there any sites or threads explains all these jangles

- I am living in Hong Kong and seems nobody carries Carmina in town. Learned that the sizings and fits maybe varies from different person so any suggestion on the shoes comparison (IE compare to sport shoes or other brands like Gucci or Ferragamo which they have physical shops in HK).   

- I will have a b-trip to London in April.  Any shops or shopping malls carry bigger stocks for the brand?

 

Cheers,

I saw Carmina at The armoury HK https://thearmoury.com/

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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post


Check out The Armoury and Tassels. Both are in HK and respectable retailers, Tassels is a specialist shoe store while The Armoury @JeffArmoury is a haberdashery. Support you local retailers.


Although I usually buy Carmina & EG from Skoak and @steveyoo1983, I agree with @Leaves. Tassels is a good store for killing time & buying shoes, a great team lead by Vicky will help you figuring out the best size & suggestion.

 

I do not have any experience with Armoury but it is always nice to meet Alan, Jake and other people there.

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As a follow up with my previous conversation with leaves...I was sitting in my office rereading your post as to speed hooks when it hit me that I only have one pair of boots with speed hooks....and they aren't my Carmina's.... but it was a good explanation when I thought otherwise. lol

 

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I haven't had any issues with laces breaking (knock on wood), but I usually snug the laces at the eyelets, each pair at a time since I have them bar laced. Then I just pull the tops as normal since they're already tight everywhere else. And as long as they're tight when you loop them through the speedhooks you shouldn't have to pull them and risk chafing the laces. I can see how if you're in a hurry though and really yanking they could break. My 0.02 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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That Uwing Boot in Burdundy MC was a great make up and the only regret I have is that my man @steveyoo1983 beat me to it!
post #16720 of 16721
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Originally Posted by neelp3 View Post
 

Not a problem, IMO. That is a place where those kind of creases should be.  Just wear them in good heath.

post #16721 of 16721
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Originally Posted by justonemore View Post
 

As a follow up with my previous conversation with leaves...I was sitting in my office rereading your post as to speed hooks when it hit me that I only have one pair of boots with speed hooks....and they aren't my Carmina's.... but it was a good explanation when I thought otherwise. lol

 

Well done, blind eyelets for such a model.  Much more balanced.

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