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Originally Posted by JawnGault View Post

Can anyone comment on their recent experience with Carmina's "cognac" cordovan color? It seems that the color is very inconsistent depending on the shoe make up and/or vendor. Some cognac shoes appear very light while others are moderate to dark brown, and some have tints of red.

I'm very interested in having a shell cordovan Oscar last PTB made in a brown/dark brown color, but am hesitant given the apparent inconsistencies in color.

Mine (shameless plug as they are in my sig for sale) are almost identical to my Alden Ravello. They're just called "Cognac" on the box. I was initially told they'd be close to Alden Cigar but when they arrived they were definitely lighter. I suspect the Dark Cognac is equivalent to Cigar with Cognac being closer to Ravello.

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Mine (shameless plug as they are in my sig for sale) are almost identical to my Alden Ravello. They're just called "Cognac" on the box. I was initially told they'd be close to Alden Cigar but when they arrived they were definitely lighter. I suspect the Dark Cognac is equivalent to Cigar with Cognac being closer to Ravello.

 

 

I share the same understanding regarding Cognac/Ravello and Dark Cognac/Cigar, but I'm not sure that its an official color classification system.  Also, the inconsistency in the use of color names across retailers and even Carmina themselves definitely confuses things even further.

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Originally Posted by JawnGault View Post

Can anyone comment on their recent experience with Carmina's "cognac" cordovan color? It seems that the color is very inconsistent depending on the shoe make up and/or vendor. Some cognac shoes appear very light while others are moderate to dark brown, and some have tints of red.

I'm very interested in having a shell cordovan Oscar last PTB made in a brown/dark brown color, but am hesitant given the apparent inconsistencies in color.

Mine are pretty close to this stock picture from their site: http://www.carminashoemaker.com/cordovan-shoes/wingtip-lace-up-cordovan-922

A hair lighter and more on the golden brown side than the red brown side.
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Trying on first Carminas and deciding whether to keep

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Is that the Forest or Uetam last? I'm trying to decide which last to try for my first pair of Carmina loafers, but I'm on the wide side so I'm nervous about both lasts.
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Originally Posted by CaptainTohm View Post

Is that the Forest or Uetam last? I'm trying to decide which last to try for my first pair of Carmina loafers, but I'm on the wide side so I'm nervous about both lasts.

 

Forest is a pretty middle of the road last in terms of width and volume.  Uetam I haven't tried yet, but I believe it's supposed to be pretty narrow, similar to Simpson.

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Originally Posted by CaptainTohm View Post

Is that the Forest or Uetam last? I'm trying to decide which last to try for my first pair of Carmina loafers, but I'm on the wide side so I'm nervous about both lasts.

These are the uetam, and I find them narrow! Maybe, with bamgrinus' advise, forest would be more suitable for you.
post #16463 of 18825
I am a 12E in AE shoes. What size and last would this forum recommends? Thanks.
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I can't wait until they add some different styles on this last. I can definitely see this last on a adelaide. 

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Originally Posted by JawnGault View Post

Can anyone comment on their recent experience with Carmina's "cognac" cordovan color? It seems that the color is very inconsistent depending on the shoe make up and/or vendor. Some cognac shoes appear very light while others are moderate to dark brown, and some have tints of red.

I'm very interested in having a shell cordovan Oscar last PTB made in a brown/dark brown color, but am hesitant given the apparent inconsistencies in color.

 

Did a comparison on the Carmina's cognac some time ago, note though that this is in rather crappy artificial light (damn nordic winters!) but i thin the picture proves the point. Pardon the image quality...

 

Left to right is a 922 in cognac cordovan from Carmina's online store, the reddit GYW 531 GMTO in yet again cognac cordovan and to the right we have a 80184 in cognac cordovan from the Barcelona stora. Got these during about a year but clearly there is very different shades/colors with basically the wingtip IMO being very light and closer to saddle, the PTB having very much red tones (mahogny?) and the boot could pass as dark cognac any day basically.

 

That being said i believe one of the charm with Carmina's cognac is that you never really know what you are going to get in terms of exact shade. The only thing i have experienced though is excellent handling of horween's finest and very little polish and treatment to the hides from the state they left the tannery. This is for sure not the consistency you see coming out of Alden and others but on the other hand this is not polished/forced to absolute consistency taking out (in my view) the charm of cordovan to start with. 

 

I have the natural shell PTB coming so it's going to be interesting to see how close that will be to my 922 wingtip. Should be able to post a comparison within some weeks. Carmina's IG seems to show them on the way. 

 

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Originally Posted by sdfzs View Post
 

 

Did a comparison on the Carmina's cognac some time ago, note though that this is in rather crappy artificial light (damn nordic winters!) but i thin the picture proves the point. Pardon the image quality...

 

Left to right is a 922 in cognac cordovan from Carmina's online store, the reddit GYW 531 GMTO in yet again cognac cordovan and to the right we have a 80184 in cognac cordovan from the Barcelona stora. Got these during about a year but clearly there is very different shades/colors with basically the wingtip IMO being very light and closer to saddle, the PTB having very much red tones (mahogny?) and the boot could pass as dark cognac any day basically.

 

That being said i believe one of the charm with Carmina's cognac is that you never really know what you are going to get in terms of exact shade. The only thing i have experienced though is excellent handling of horween's finest and very little polish and treatment to the hides from the state they left the tannery. This is for sure not the consistency you see coming out of Alden and others but on the other hand this is not polished/forced to absolute consistency taking out (in my view) the charm of cordovan to start with. 

 

I have the natural shell PTB coming so it's going to be interesting to see how close that will be to my 922 wingtip. Should be able to post a comparison within some weeks. Carmina's IG seems to show them on the way. 

 

 

^^^Everything he said...

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So I managed to bump into the Carmina online customization tool that their site has said is "coming soon" for a while. Someone was a touch sloppy with the noindex flag on the pages in dev...

Still under construction but the current flow of the site shows ultimate flexibility in choosing pattern, materials, sole, and last. The ability to put patterns on different lasts would be new and interesting.

Some light hacking reveals they were "inspired by" (heavily so...like cut and paste) the G&G online MTO tool. This may never have been meant to see the light of day, so *perhaps* no harm no foul.

http://www.carminashoemaker.com/ecommerce/categories/categories.cfm?id=5955
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strong username to post correlation
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Originally Posted by fairlynerdy View Post

So I managed to bump into the Carmina online customization tool that their site has said is "coming soon" for a while. Someone was a touch sloppy with the noindex flag on the pages in dev...

Still under construction but the current flow of the site shows ultimate flexibility in choosing pattern, materials, sole, and last. The ability to put patterns on different lasts would be new and interesting.

Some light hacking reveals they were "inspired by" (heavily so...like cut and paste) the G&G online MTO tool. This may never have been meant to see the light of day, so *perhaps* no harm no foul.

http://www.carminashoemaker.com/ecommerce/categories/categories.cfm?id=5955

Saw that a few weeks ago, pretty sure I posted too!
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