Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc...) - official thread.

[Leaves]



Agree that the whole cut is more formal between the that and the captoe, but I'm not sure that would be my go to for an interview shoe.

I still maintain that none of the shoes posted in the whole cut discussion are Balmorals though.

It's mostly a UK English vs. US English issue.

UK English
Oxford - closed throated shoe
Derby - open throated shoe

US English
Balmoral - closed throated shoe
Blucher - open throated shoe

There are no differences in formality in a wholecut (Oxford) or plain cap toe (Oxford) IMO. I'd say that the plain cap toe is more for the work place (and interviews) while the wholecut is for evening wear. But for i.e. black tie events they could both be worn as long as they are in patent leather. It's more an issue of personal taste than a etiquette.

 

[gyasih]

I know someone kopped the Essex, I would appreciate a few photos. Thank you

 

[aldenwear]

It's mostly a UK English vs. US English issue.

UK English
Oxford - closed throated shoe
Derby - open throated shoe

US English
Balmoral - closed throated shoe
Blucher - open throated shoe



There are no differences in formality in a wholecut (Oxford) or plain cap toe (Oxford) IMO. I'd say that the plain cap toe is more for the work place (and interviews) while the wholecut is for evening wear. But for i.e. black tie events they could both be worn as long as they are in patent leather. It's more an issue of personal taste than a etiquette.

Thank you for the nomenclature information.

There was no mention by the original poster of either of his options including a shoe in patent leather. While not explicit, it was pretty clear he was asking about the captoe balmoral v. wholecut in black calf or, I suppose, cordovan.

 

[laufer]

I posted in wrong thread previously,

Hey you guys who bought Forest 861 CXL boot from the Shoemart check out the toe cops on your boots. The toe caps on my boots are uneven. The left toe cup is about a half a millimeter longer than right toe cap. This is not something that bothers me but these shoes should have never left the factory.

 

[keunho]

For those who have returned shoes back to Betty, how long did it take and what shipping carrier did you use?

 

[stevent]



I posted in wrong thread previously,

Hey you guys who bought Forest 861 CXL boot from the Shoemart check out the toe cops on your boots. The toe caps on my boots are uneven. The left toe cup is about a half a millimeter longer than right toe cap. This is not something that bothers me but these shoes should have never left the factory.

Pretty much every toe cap is off in some way from Carmina boots from what I've seen

 

[OzzyJones]



I posted in wrong thread previously,

Hey you guys who bought Forest 861 CXL boot from the Shoemart check out the toe cops on your boots. The toe caps on my boots are uneven. The left toe cup is about a half a millimeter longer than right toe cap. This is not something that bothers me but these shoes should have never left the factory.

I assume you mean half a centimetre? I don't think I'd notice half a mil in even my craziest OCD moments!

 

[Winston S.]



It's mostly a UK English vs. US English issue.

UK English
Oxford - closed throated shoe
Derby - open throated shoe

US English
Balmoral - closed throated shoe
Blucher - open throated shoe

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There are no differences in formality in a wholecut (Oxford) or plain cap toe (Oxford) IMO. I'd say that the plain cap toe is more for the work place (and interviews) while the wholecut is for evening wear. But for i.e. black tie events they could both be worn as long as they are in patent leather. It's more an issue of personal taste than a etiquette.

I beg to differ. It is more than just a language issue. Balmoral oxfords are not only close throated, but they also have horizontal seam that goes from the vamp to the back of the shoe. Just like how an Adelaide is a specific type of oxford.

Picture sourced from morningdressguide.com

 

[laufer]



I posted in wrong thread previously,

Hey you guys who bought Forest 861 CXL boot from the Shoemart check out the toe cops on your boots. The toe caps on my boots are uneven. The left toe cup is about 5 millimeter longer than right toe cap. This is not something that bothers me but these shoes should have never left the factory.

 

[laufer]



I assume you mean half a centimetre? I don't think I'd notice half a mil in even my craziest OCD moments!

Indeed yes a half centimeter.

 

[laufer]



Pretty much every toe cap is off in some way from Carmina boots from what I've seen

It is not going to bother me because this is beater boot but it would bother me if it was a really nice shoe.

 

[rydenfan]

I guess everyone has a different definition of beater...

 

[MTLinStyle]

Which Carmina model number / last is this? Looks amazing
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[Winston S.]



Which Carmina model number / last is this? Looks amazing

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Quote:

I actually don't know. I borrowed it off the internet somewhere....

 

[Cuttingboard]



X-post from our affiliate thread Finally got some pictures of the 'Rusti-Calf Green' from Carmina as some members were interested! Have a great week!

That's an odd green.