Originally Posted by countbaron
When this kind of in your face promotion of a 2nd tier brand happens I never know if it is just an innocent band-waging phenomenon or whether there are commercial interests driving it
Carmina has been discussed here for ages and now all of the sudden it is being compared to EG. Carmina shoes are -I believe- an unknown quantity to most people in SF, unlike EGs.
What are the lasts for Carmina shoes that are available/used in the last few years, are you familiar with the range of models (have you had access to a Carmina catalogue,) have you handled any of their shoes, etc
In essence: get a grip, otherwise this seems like a silly season thread
PS: Kev , why don't you go an buy some Grenson masterpieces from your mate Tim. Buy British
It is not being compared to EG per se, but I am rather touting why it is an excellent choice as a mid-tier product. The lasts fit me better, they are an excellent value, and I am just saying that for $700-800 more I do not really see where my money is going. Carmina's suede in particular is beautiful, and their calf is also lovely. With C&J, I have found that the lasts are much less elegant than EG. With Carmina, on the other hand, I think that they have some of the most pleasing lasts. EG uses better leather, they are made in England, and they are normally finished better. But for me, with their rising prices, I find that EG is getting to the point that they are just not worth the premium. Further, a lot of SF members have claimed to have problems with EG's quality control and their customer service--two reasons why I, personally, prefer 'luxury' brands. No one is saying that EG makes an inferior product; in fact, quite the opposite is true. However, when I sit both of the products side-to-side, a difference is not so apparent as to justify the premium. As such, I have no qualms wholeheartedly recommending Carmina. Also, the forum has always [to my knowledge] espoused Carmina's shoes, normally ranking them above C&J. Carmina has only recently become much easier to acquire, through The Armoury and through their own website. This is probably why Carmina is being discussed more as of late.
TLDR: EG is an objectively
better shoe, but the premium is not worth it to me.