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Originally Posted by CTBrummie View Post

I'd say so, from the 60s or 70s before they changed hands and upped their game to aim for the foreign market in the 80s. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The '508' would most likely be the model designation, if they are indeed EG, as they didn't start using names for their shoes until relatively recently.

The hand is very similar to the one used in these tramping brogues, which can be found in the EG catalogue for 1965-66:

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(With thanks for EG for the catalogue image, which they provided in response to a question about the tramping shoes and also the veldtschoen boots in the top half of the image)

what does it mean?
post #662 of 2171
Just wanted to confirm my suspicions that this label is from the lower line Gianluca versus a mainline Isaia.

Thanks in advance.

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Can anyone id who the maker of this suit is? The suit is from Rose & Born and made in italy
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post #664 of 2171
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Are you that ebay seller I hate who sells the used shoes and poses them so gayly like in the pic above?


well you might be right about the lovely poses but I'm not an ebay seller very often, only when the closet gets cleaned out.

 

But hey thanks for your brilliant insight into the question, these shoes have never seen feebay.

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well you might be right about the lovely poses but I'm not an ebay seller very often, only when the closet gets cleaned out.

But hey thanks for your brilliant insight into the question, these shoes have never seen feebay.

You're welcome. I can't stand the way that chick posed shoes for pics. Scroll down this page and see what I mean.

My guess is that your shoes were a custom order/special run.

Excerpt from here:

Almost all Florsheim’s shoes were ready made, however their flagship stores in New York, Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles had each at certain times one fitter on duty for the custom trade. Measurements were taken, styles decided upon, leather chosen and the order sent to the central workshop where the shoes were hand made by selected shoemakers according to the client’s specifications, using specific lasts. These Florsheim Custom Ordered shoes, scarce even in their day, are hardly to be found today. More even than the collectors item that they certainly are, they are museum pieces, were there such a museum to assemble the sumptuary and sartorial masterpieces of the 20th Century.
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Originally Posted by Xenos View Post

Have this sole tag on a black wool sweater, Made in Italy. Looks vaguely familiar, but can't quite place it. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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post #667 of 2171
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post


what does it mean?


Before new owners took over the business.

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Anyone by any chance recognize this lettering for an identification of the maker?

467

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Soles and heels have been replaced and no other markings on the inside of the shoes.
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Originally Posted by CTBrummie View Post

I'd say so, from the 60s or 70s before they changed hands and upped their game to aim for the foreign market in the 80s.
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

what does it mean?
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Originally Posted by CTBrummie View Post


Before new owners took over the business.

Edward Green (the company) changed ownership twice within a few years.

After Edward Green (the man), the company was run by the second generation of the Green family who sold the business (which might have been in difficulties by then) in 1977 to the American entrepreneur Marley Hodgson. Hodgson (Ashley Lloyd-Jennings the co-founder of Hackett was also involved somehow) did not manage to turn the company around. (The 70s and 80s was the time when the majority of Northampton shoe manufacturers went under.)

The company was virtually bankrupt, when John Hlustik acquired them in 1982 as a going concern (including all the debts) for a sum of
one English Pound.
post #670 of 2171
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Anyone by any chance recognize this lettering for an identification of the maker?
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Soles and heels have been replaced and no other markings on the inside of the shoes.

Church's.
post #671 of 2171

Can anyone ID the maker of these Lloyd and Haig "Custom Built" English-made shoes?  The text under the outsole might be hard to read:  it simply reads "Lloyd & Haig" with "made in England" underneath.  I understand that Lloyd and Haig used various Northampton makers.  These are a bit unusual as the width marking is split to indicate the heel size, as in Aldens.  I have not seen this in other English shoes.  Are these well enough made that they're worth resoling?  Any information would be appreciated!

 

Lloyd & Haig Custom Built black cap-toe oxfords - 0.jpg    Lloyd & Haig Custom Built black cap-toe oxfords - heel.jpg

 

Lloyd & Haig Custom Built black cap-toe oxfords - markings 1.jpg

post #672 of 2171
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Originally Posted by NORE View Post


You're welcome. I can't stand the way that chick posed shoes for pics.
My guess is that your shoes were a custom order/special run.
Excerpt from here:
Almost all Florsheim’s shoes were ready made, however their flagship stores in New York, Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles had each at certain times one fitter on duty for the custom trade. Measurements were taken, styles decided upon, leather chosen and the order sent to the central workshop where the shoes were hand made by selected shoemakers according to the client’s specifications, using specific lasts. These Florsheim Custom Ordered shoes, scarce even in their day, are hardly to be found today. More even than the collectors item that they certainly are, they are museum pieces, were there such a museum to assemble the sumptuary and sartorial masterpieces of the 20th Century.

Thanks, much appreciated.

 

I looked everywhere I could think and couldn't turn up much of anything, I guess I didn't consider looking from that angle.

 

What the hell should I do with them? They are size 12AA ,but I knew there was something different when I saw them!

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Hello all. I'm enjoying reading the threads here and all the information I'm learning.

 

I was wondering if anyone could help me identify the makers of these shoes:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280892362918?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

 

Based on my limited knowledge, I'm guessing they aren't Church's. I'm leaning towards C&J, but remain unsure.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

--edit

 

After much digging on Google and eBay, I feel fairly confident that they are actually Cheaney, which I guess brings it back around to Church's.


Edited by Mox C - 6/10/12 at 10:43pm
post #674 of 2171

Are these Brooks English / Peal are made by C&J?

 

  Brooks English - Peal - quarter-brogued oxfords - (1)a.JPG Brooks English - Peal - quarter-brogued oxfords - (5).JPG  Brooks English - Peal - quarter-brogued oxfords - (6).JPG

 

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post #675 of 2171
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Originally Posted by apack View Post

Are these Brooks English / Peal are made by C&J?

  Brooks English - Peal - quarter-brogued oxfords - (1)a.JPG
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Indeed, they are.
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