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Originally Posted by RFHansen View Post
 

Raffaele Caruso Sartoriale Parma:

 

If anyone knows the approximate ages of the GFT, Zegna, and Caruso, I'd love to hear it.

Can't comment on the others, but I believe that is the current Caruso Label

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Great thread. thanks.

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I don't know if this was posted yet but this is new Pal Zileri

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Edited by Brianpore - 9/5/16 at 3:03pm
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Does anyone recognize these tags on a long sleeve polo style sweater? I think Brioni uses a similar sizing format on some items but was hoping for some confirmation



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Does anyone recognize these tags on a long sleeve polo style sweater? I think Brioni uses a similar sizing format on some items but was hoping for some confirmation



Don't think it's brioni, they use different style of Roman numerals
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^ yes, doesn't look like any brioni tags I've ever seen.
post #3158 of 3231
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Originally Posted by RFHansen View Post

 

Ermenegildo Zegna:

 

Raffaele Caruso Sartoriale Parma:

 

If anyone knows the approximate ages of the GFT, Zegna, and Caruso, I'd love to hear it.

That Zegna has the tag still in the right pocket and is from the days it used a black patch with a large background Z as their logo. This would date that between 2004-2008. In 2008 they dropped the large Z in the background and just kept the plain black box, and then 2011 came the logo with the which stitching along the borders. Meanwhile the manufacturers tag switched from the right chest pocket to the left around 2009, where it has stayed since. Zegna most recently has switched their label again, far different from any prior, and of course the tag changed in 2015.

 

Caruso uses various different tags for various different garments. The tag differentiation I believe is in reference to the quality of construction the garment received, much like Isaia's tagging system. This tag is still used as I believe their "Mainline" quality of construction, whereas the current elongated Caruso tag is their premium tier.

post #3159 of 3231
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That's what I thought, but I wasn't aware Caruso made for Faconnable. Wanted to check with the experts before I committed that to my listing. (And I didn't want to influence the process with my bias)

Zegna now makes for premium Faconnable as well.

post #3160 of 3231
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Originally Posted by Jompso View Post
 

Zegna now makes for premium Faconnable as well.

1. Which level of Zegna manufacture? (ie. ZZ, mainline, exclusive/couture)?

 

2. Any ideas about this Lanvin?

 

post #3161 of 3231
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1. Which level of Zegna manufacture? (ie. ZZ, mainline, exclusive/couture)?

 

2. Any ideas about this Lanvin?

 

Mainline Zegna has actually made quite a jump in production quality in very recent years, and there is no way Facconable is paying for Couture level quality, let a lone the Zegna Premium line. So although top tier Facconable, the quality is most likely present day mainline Zegna.

 

And that isn't the Lanvin quite yet. That seems to predate Caruso days, perhaps still being manufactured by Canali. This is the Lanvin I am referencing...

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Originally Posted by Quesjac View Post

1. Which level of Zegna manufacture? (ie. ZZ, mainline, exclusive/couture)?

2. Any ideas about this Lanvin?



That Lanvin is Pal Zileri. Lanvin is made by Caruso and PZ. I think the Caruso Lanvin pieces are a bit higher in price.
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That Lanvin is Pal Zileri. Lanvin is made by Caruso and PZ. I think the Caruso Lanvin pieces are a bit higher in price.

Where did you read this? Lanvin went from Canali to Caruso. And yes the Caruso pieces are extemely high priced. But never have I heard of Zileri having anything to do with Lanvin.

Edit: Also that isn't a Zileri tag though either
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Originally Posted by Jompso View Post

Where did you read this? Lanvin went from Canali to Caruso. And yes the Caruso pieces are extemely high priced. But never have I heard of Zileri having anything to do with Lanvin.

Edit: Also that isn't a Zileri tag though either

They were launched at the same time I think. The picture of the suit above isn't showing the entire tag. The PZ Lanvin used to use the old PZ tag. Now they've switched over to the newer one as well. I've been to two stores that carried Lanvin and they had tailored items from both companies. The best indicator is the MSRP. I'm 100% positive on this.

But yeah, I don't see the logic behind using two companies.

Here's one with the newer PZ tag:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-1995-LANVIN-Solid-Black-Wool-Suit-Slim-Eu-54-42-44-R-Made-in-Italy-/381752839791?hash=item58e23e0e6f:g:M64AAOxyNo9SxHAZ
Edited by othertravel - 9/6/16 at 5:10pm
post #3165 of 3231
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Originally Posted by Jompso View Post

 

Caruso uses various different tags for various different garments. The tag differentiation I believe is in reference to the quality of construction the garment received, much like Isaia's tagging system. This tag is still used as I believe their "Mainline" quality of construction, whereas the current elongated Caruso tag is their premium tier.

hi, Jompso

 

how can i tell the differentiation of the quality from the isaia tags?

 

i see some isaia coats with machine made buttonholes, i doubt the quality is not equal to mainline, but the inside tag is same IIRC.

 

thanks!

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