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Could anyone help date this?!




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These are from a pair of vintage Foster & Sons. I think Eazy has already posted. The writing on the tongue suggests to me G&G. Does anyone know G&G well enough to know if that's a G&G-only thing? Or know whether that's their script? Heels are not typical G&G heels.




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Hello Forum,

While at the thrift, I found these Derby Boots which were Made in England.. does anyone have any info about or maybe recognize the makers mark?

Thank You, Kindly!











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Originally Posted by cpmac7 View Post

Could anyone help date this?!





That's an awesome and quite possibly pre-war Burberrys coat. The tell is in that sewn in pocket tag—the numbers on that tag (within the “Order” section) usually contain the year of manufacture. Yours has “37” twice. Attached here are two newer Burberrys coats with their pocket tags exposed. The top one's tag is from 1979 and the one below is from a few years after that, 1985. The cut of the coat and weight of that wool looks VERY thirties and the tag corresponds top their internal tracking system.

 

 

 

Hope this helps!


Edited by misterellington - 2/24/16 at 11:25pm
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Originally Posted by BMJLambert View Post

Hello Forum,

While at the thrift, I found these Derby Boots which were Made in England.. does anyone have any info about or maybe recognize the makers mark?

Thank You, Kindly!












I believe those are made by G.T. Hawkins of Northampton (The “GTH” mark on the bottom of the boot is the tell). They're no longer in business. The brand exists now as just that—a brand that has changed hands several times since the company's demise, but for many, many years, evidently encompassing the timeframe of your recent acquisition they were quite revered—This article from The Northampton Chronicle:

 

“The former shoe factory dates from the 1870s. It finally closed its doors after 120 years of trading, in 1995, and has been empty ever since. At its peak, GT Hawkins was well known as a boot maker to the Queen and in 1982, the firm's footwear was used by British troops in the Falklands. Read more: http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/call-to-preserve-historic-shoe-factories-1-927432#ixzz41A6Xq0bL

 

Enjoy 'em and hope this helps!

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Thank You, Kindly!!!

@misterrellington very helpful indeed.. they're in need of some heel work and a serious shoeshine, dropping them off to my cobbler. I'm looking forward to many years of showing them off.

Respect,

- Bernie
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Anyone recognize this text? On the wholecut below. Topied and reheeled. Look to be Goodyear welted.



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Originally Posted by Nell View Post

Anyone recognize this text? On the wholecut below. Topied and reheeled. Look to be Goodyear welted.




Isn't that Crockett & Jones on the 348 last?

Could be the 'Alex' model, which is the C&J wholecut on the 348 last.
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Hi all,

 

I stumbled upon this forum while trying to research an item I recently acquired and it seems like you guys have a pretty cool community here with a wealth of knowledge. That said, I hate for my first post to basically be asking a favor but I am very curious if this Tom Ford shirt I have is authentic or not. From all the research I did, it seems to have appropriate tags but the thing that makes me wonder is the lack of the trademark Tom Ford white gussets on the sides of the shirt. Also, this little barcode that is on the inside of the shirt tail. 

Maybe someone here can shed some light...

Thanks!

 

-Dirt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't think his shirts are made in Turkey, but I'm not positive.
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Yes, I thought that was interesting as well as I only thought they were made in Italy or Switzerland but upon some further investigation, I did find some other photos of apparently authentic TF that were made in Turkey but there is very little info available about that either on the web.

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Originally Posted by Dirt View Post

Hi all,

I stumbled upon this forum while trying to research an item I recently acquired and it seems like you guys have a pretty cool community here with a wealth of knowledge. That said, I hate for my first post to basically be asking a favor but I am very curious if this Tom Ford shirt I have is authentic or not. From all the research I did, it seems to have appropriate tags but the thing that makes me wonder is the lack of the trademark Tom Ford white gussets on the sides of the shirt. Also, this little barcode that is on the inside of the shirt tail. 
Maybe someone here can shed some light...
Thanks!

-Dirt Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)





























The tags are all perfect, and they use the right style and kind of buttons, it's hard to imagine who would go through all that trouble to fake it but have the label say made in turkey. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it's a uniform shirt, if not a true retail. I know the uniform suits are done in China to cut costs and prevent resale, so that's what I'd guess about the shirt.
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Originally Posted by Dirt View Post
 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Hi all,

 

I stumbled upon this forum while trying to research an item I recently acquired and it seems like you guys have a pretty cool community here with a wealth of knowledge. That said, I hate for my first post to basically be asking a favor but I am very curious if this Tom Ford shirt I have is authentic or not. From all the research I did, it seems to have appropriate tags but the thing that makes me wonder is the lack of the trademark Tom Ford white gussets on the sides of the shirt. Also, this little barcode that is on the inside of the shirt tail. 

Maybe someone here can shed some light...

Thanks!

 

-Dirt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by othertravel View Post

I don't think his shirts are made in Turkey, but I'm not positive.
 
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Originally Posted by Dirt View Post
 

Yes, I thought that was interesting as well as I only thought they were made in Italy or Switzerland but upon some further investigation, I did find some other photos of apparently authentic TF that were made in Turkey but there is very little info available about that either on the web.

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Originally Posted by Man of Wealth and Taste View Post


The tags are all perfect, and they use the right style and kind of buttons, it's hard to imagine who would go through all that trouble to fake it but have the label say made in turkey. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it's a uniform shirt, if not a true retail. I know the uniform suits are done in China to cut costs and prevent resale, so that's what I'd guess about the shirt.

The shirt is 100% authentic, however lack of quality detailing just means it's the cheapest model offered. TF has different tiers/ranges, they start in the mid 300's and go all the way up to the Sea Island cotton white shirts that are well over $900. But if you're familiar with Tom Ford production, you know that it is made by Ermenegildo Zegna, and if you are familiar with Zegna dress shirts, you would know that about 80% are made in Turkey. I've seen fakes TF shirts, and I own real, I don't own a Turkey made shirt, but this is real. The bar code on the inside of the placket is from a dry cleaner and has nothing to do with the shirt. The quality Tom Ford Shirts start in the 500-600 range. That's where you will start to see the thicker Australian MOP shell buttons,, the double button collars, double barrell cuffs, the perfect wide spread collar, the reinforced gussets and the overall higher quality of construction (also these are Swiss and Italian made). The only reason this is purchased retail is so people can say they own a TF shirt. The fact they even produce a line of shirts this poor (relatively speaking) and accessible is really surprising. 

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Originally Posted by GMMcL View Post

These are from a pair of vintage Foster & Sons. I think Eazy has already posted. The writing on the tongue suggests to me G&G. Does anyone know G&G well enough to know if that's a G&G-only thing? Or know whether that's their script? Heels are not typical G&G heels.





If they are "vintage" it's highly unlikely they're G&G as they've only been in business several years. Add to that I've never seen G&G make for F&S.

It could be any one of the AS, C&J, Church's people as they look rather old, PM bengal-stripe he might know.
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I suspect they are a pair of Foster and Son  bespoke shoes that have been resoled  by a non bespoke / hand craft  repairer.

My reason for thinking this is that looks very like Terry Moores handwriting and the number system that of Fosters bespoke.

Another little clue is, do you see where the lining is slightly fuller above  the writing ? this is where the tab left on the lining to assist the maker

has been trimmed.This tab is left on the lining for the maker 's benefit and is trimmed off when the lasts are pulled and the shoes are prepared

and socked,The style of sock liner will help to date them. A few more pictures could confirm this.

Hope this is a help.


Edited by j-mac - 3/4/16 at 12:08am
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