HOF: Labels, heels and nail patterns - Secrets to ID the maker - Page 82

So still no answer to this one?

Apparently not.  And GMMcL linked to someone else asking about the same tag some time ago that never got answered.  This one is pretty elusive, it seems.

 

a knowledgeable man tell me Lanvin shoes are made by Sutor.

 

but after comparing with some Sutor @virtualclotheshorse, i find many differences in details. 

so are they really and only made by Sutor?

I've come across that tag a few times....never any luck here figuring it out either.

My understanding is that the Ralph Lauren Made in England shoes with the script are Edward Green. Is that correct?

 

 

 

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^ Not always. Those are C&J. Though I have never seen Polo at the bottom while scripted text inside the soles.

 

That threw me too. The only EGs I've seen had the little window in the lining, but these didnt look like any C&Js I'd seen either.

 

Thanks, I had a feeling you would know.

The writing on the interior lining is standard for C&J for Polo RL and BB Peal & Co. So that's why I am quite certain that those are C&J. The scripted text, however, is not helpful. When RL first started their purple label line, they used that scripted text for RLPL exclusively. But now it is on all sorts of things.

I'd like to know this as well; Lanvin shoes seem very well constructed.

Need some help identifying the maker of these vintage Polo boots, please:









Thanks!
Edited by 518aata - 3/25/13 at 1:38pm

Oh so you won those? I was tempted but couldn't pull the trigger. Hope you enjoy regardless of the maker!

Yes. Just bought these off eBay. It's difficult to find English shoes in a narrow width, so these were too tempting to resist.

I don't think I've seen the Polo player on the sole for a long, long time, so I'm guessing these are fairly old (for Polo).

I posted a pair of Polos with the player on the sole about a year and a half ago. I think the concensus was that they were early 90s at the newest.

Thanks for the input. Did anyone know the maker?

Don't know for 100% sure, but if I have to venture a guess I would say Cheaney, with about 60% certainty. Here is my reasoning. There are 2 shoemakers that have 3 nails aligned near the rubber heels: C&J and Cheaney's (eg. 90's Brooks English). However, C&J uses nails of similar sizes, while Cheaney's uses 3 significantly bigger nails, which seems to be in this case. Furthermore, C&J always uses dovetail rubber heels instead of a flat one like this, while Cheaney's have been using flat rubber heels on most of their shoes.

That said, there are several things that baffle me. I have never seen that sizing stamp, especially on the tongue (Sanders and Trickers do this once in a while but not very often, for example Trickers for BBBF). And the embossed arch at the bottom waist is seen mainly from Grenson Masterpiece/Paul Stuart's Choice, and EG.

So in conclusion: you are gonna have a pretty hard time figure out who the maker is with 100% certainty.

Question: what does the stamp inside the footbed near the ball say?