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post #1201 of 2466
pre-bankruptcy Peal & Co for Brooks Brothers insoles look like this. So yours is post-bankruptcy Peal & Co by EG. And this is what I meant by "Royal stamp" in the previous post.



in comparison, these are non-BB Peal & Co (this is one version, there is another version with 3 stamps)

post #1202 of 2466
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Originally Posted by onix View Post

pre-bankruptcy Peal & Co for Brooks Brothers insoles look like this. So yours is post-bankruptcy Peal & Co by EG. And this is what I meant by "Royal stamp" in the previous post.

Thanks for correcting my inaccurate information. With the Peal & Co. roots across the pond, I assume this is a reason only Made in England shoes have the "Peal & Co." namesake?
post #1203 of 2466

I know this but I'm drawing a blank on it - I want to say St. Andrews?

 

Faconnable made in Italy

 

 

 

 

And I know these are Church's Custom Grade, but I can't figure out if the "130D" is the sizing or the last.  I don't see anywhere else where the size information is, so it seems like it has to be that (13.0D), right?  Also, any clue on whether these are UK or US sizing?

 

 

 

Thanks in advance!!

post #1204 of 2466
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Originally Posted by DpprDr View Post

Thanks for correcting my inaccurate information. With the Peal & Co. roots across the pond, I assume this is a reason only Made in England shoes have the "Peal & Co." namesake?

Yes. Not long ago, BB actually had a page on their website described their Peal & Co line as quintessential English shoes. The page is no longer there.
post #1205 of 2466
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I know this but I'm drawing a blank on it - I want to say St. Andrews?

Faconnable made in Italy
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And I know these are Church's Custom Grade, but I can't figure out if the "130D" is the sizing or the last.  I don't see anywhere else where the size information is, so it seems like it has to be that (13.0D), right?  Also, any clue on whether these are UK or US sizing?



Thanks in advance!!

Abed posted about this. http://www.styleforum.net/t/24109/hof-labels-heels-and-nail-patterns-secrets-to-id-the-maker/800_100#post_5790154 Looking to see if it was answered, but I don't think it's St Andrews.

EDIT: Was never answered that I could find. Someone had postulated Caruso, but it's not like any Caruso tag I've seen (which is, like, 2)

130 means 13.0. It's the size. In my experience, Church's are UK sized.
Edited by GMMcL - 3/14/13 at 9:34pm
post #1206 of 2466
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Originally Posted by AndroFan View Post

 

And I know these are Church's Custom Grade, but I can't figure out if the "130D" is the sizing or the last.  I don't see anywhere else where the size information is, so it seems like it has to be that (13.0D), right?  Also, any clue on whether these are UK or US sizing?

 

 

 

Thanks in advance!!

130 D is the size (13 D) and 224 is the last.

 

I think that Church's shoes that were made specifically for the US used a standard sizing system (i.e. a simple 13) although I'm not sure if this is a relatively recent thing or not.

 

A D-width on a pair of Church's marked for the UK market would be noticeably narrow (their standard width is 'F', as you probably know). Of course, with a size 13 shoe then it might be difficult to find an obvious point of reference when sizing up the width in relation to anything else you own...

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130 D is the size (13 D) and 224 is the last.

I think that Church's shoes that were made specifically for the US used a standard sizing system (i.e. a simple 13) although I'm not sure if this is a relatively recent thing or not.

A D-width on a pair of Church's marked for the UK market would be noticeably narrow (their standard width is 'F', as you probably know). Of course, with a size 13 shoe then it might be difficult to find an obvious point of reference when sizing up the width in relation to anything else you own...


I'm the last guy you want to listen to, but here's my own personal experience: I'm a solid 10.5-11D US. The Church's Custom Grade loafers I have are marked 10.0D and fit me perfect. I bought and had to sell a pair of 11.0D tassel slips because they were too big. From that, I deduce they're UK sizing. But that's just my own personal experience.
post #1208 of 2466

Thanks a lot guys, this is all very helpful stuff.  I'm a 12-12.5D usually and have a few 13D's that are probably too big for me.  I'm swimming in these, but they also don't look uncharacteristically narrow or anything, so I'm really unsure if they're US or UK.  They're older/pre-Prada, so I'm leaning toward believing that they're UK sizing. 

 

Thanks again

 

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Originally Posted by CTBrummie View Post

130 D is the size (13 D) and 224 is the last.

 

I think that Church's shoes that were made specifically for the US used a standard sizing system (i.e. a simple 13) although I'm not sure if this is a relatively recent thing or not.

 

A D-width on a pair of Church's marked for the UK market would be noticeably narrow (their standard width is 'F', as you probably know). Of course, with a size 13 shoe then it might be difficult to find an obvious point of reference when sizing up the width in relation to anything else you own...

 

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I'm the last guy you want to listen to, but here's my own personal experience: I'm a solid 10.5-11D US. The Church's Custom Grade loafers I have are marked 10.0D and fit me perfect. I bought and had to sell a pair of 11.0D tassel slips because they were too big. From that, I deduce they're UK sizing. But that's just my own personal experience.
post #1209 of 2466
Could anyone help me with these English-made Paul Smith shoes? I'm interested in both the identity of the manufacturer and the PS line they are from. Unfortunately there's no writing on the insides of the uppers or tongues.





post #1210 of 2466

Hey guys just want to verify this TF shirt.  I know Zegna has a factory in Switzerland but just want to make sure.

A friend purchased at century 21 (to big) told him Id take it off his hands for what he paid for it. 

Thx!

 

 

 

post #1211 of 2466
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Originally Posted by Frankie22 View Post

Hey guys just want to verify this TF shirt.  I know Zegna has a factory in Switzerland but just want to make sure.

A friend purchased at century 21 (to big) told him Id take it off his hands for what he paid for it. 

Thx!

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The tags look pretty legit and consistent with all the ones I've seen at NMLC. We all know Zegna makes for TF and just like you said, they do have factories in Switzerland. But I'm not an authority on the subject so...

 

post #1212 of 2466

Agree. Just want to be sure you know?  

If anyone who owns some TF bought @ retail new (baller) I'd appreciate the verification to what myself and barrelntrigger are assuming to be authentic.

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The tags look pretty legit and consistent with all the ones I've seen at NMLC. We all know Zegna makes for TF and just like you said, they do have factories in Switzerland. But I'm not an authority on the subject so...

 

post #1213 of 2466
Would NMLC sell fake TF?
post #1214 of 2466
Anything is possible. I'm pretty sure there is a market for folks that buy fake goods and "return" them to retailers with obtuse return policies and therefore fugazees can end up on the shelves. Not sure if that was the case here.
post #1215 of 2466
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Would NMLC sell fake TF?

 

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Anything is possible. I'm pretty sure there is a market for folks that buy fake goods and "return" them to retailers with obtuse return policies and therefore fugazees can end up on the shelves. Not sure if that was the case here.


That's a really good point you've just made. But I doubt these are fake. I think the OP asked if Zegna made those TF or it's some one else. I've never gotten the impression he asked whether those were fake.

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