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post #16 of 28
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1. Lol, a troll? I was thinking the same about you!
2. He likes/dislikes a band for good reasons unlike most critics who listen to a CD one time and rate it due to how 'cool' it is (*looking at Pitchfork).
3. If a band/album is shit he gives an according grade. He can't help it if said shitty music shapes music to come, for morons such as yourself. Why would you write about how a band has influenced music when they are terrible, that would make you even madder, no?
4. Your point was, wah, wah, wah he doesn't like your fav band, no?! An album deserves the grade he gives it. He himself has changed grades, on the odd occasion. He doesn't like prog, in general, or metal, etc. Neither do I. Boo hoo.
5. You were 'getting at' that he should take the band seriously because they have a reputation? Urgh, I am still surprised when I meet people from the lower end of the human gene pool.
6. FWIW/btw, 'Red' was their best album!

2. Stop being ridiculous.
3. So band that has been extremely influential because they have been creative and original deserve a shit grade because the album doesn't quite resonate with the reviewer? What a brilliant way of reviewing that is!
4. See the above.
5. No, you still have failed to comprehend what I said, I was saying your statement that he reviews albums by the album itself rather than the band who created it was a stupid, pointless statement because it was not relevant in this context, and judging by your ability to understand simple English I would comfortably say you're the one from the lower end of the gene pool.
6. I also enjoy that album, along with Larks' Tongues, however the most acclaimed is In the Court.
post #17 of 28
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2. Stop being ridiculous.
3. So band that has been extremely influential because they have been creative and original deserve a shit grade because the album doesn't quite resonate with the reviewer? What a brilliant way of reviewing that is!
4. See the above.
5. No, you still have failed to comprehend what I said, I was saying your statement that he reviews albums by the album itself rather than the band who created it was a stupid, pointless statement because it was not relevant in this context, and judging by your ability to understand simple English I would comfortably say you're the one from the lower end of the gene pool.
6. I also enjoy that album, along with Larks' Tongues, however the most acclaimed is In the Court.

1. 'Stop being ridiculous'? Now, I know you are a hipster!
2. Influential to whom? Idiots? Yes. He shouldn't change his opinion on song-craftsmanship, etc because the album is revered by morons, should he?!
4. He should rate album by album"”it is fairer. To suggest that he should rate the band not the albums is stupid"”no one reviews that way, do they? Your point was that he should give it a higher rating because, to others, it is note-worthy. To him, though (and smart people) it is shit and not worth it! :/
5. Why I am still using bullets?
post #18 of 28
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4. He should rate album by album"”it is fairer. To suggest that he should rate the band not the albums is stupid"”no one reviews that way, do they?

Ok, what the fuck, are you fucking retarded?
post #19 of 28
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Well, you suggested it..?!
post #20 of 28
No I didn't, at no point did I say that he shouldn't do that, I said you shouldn't have mentioned it because it was not relevant.
post #21 of 28
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Jesus Christ, firstly, I said that he rated album by album, specifically, and doesn't just say 'oh, that band is great' (when one or more of their albums could stink—most Radiohead fans make blanket statements). Secondly, you were the one who said he didn't take their impact on music into consideration. Not all impact is good! Also, how could they have impact after one album? He rated it when it came out—which is what most hipsters seem to forget. Basically, you are the one who got what I said mixed up, not me, and you are the one who is dismissing relevant things—like, how he is a great writer, listens many times before making a decision and understands things like song craftsmanship and form, etc. Me: The great thing about Xgau is, he can rate album by album, not by band! You: Also In the Court is basically considered King Crimson's best album, so the idea of him rating it ignoring the bands reputation is a stupid statement seeing as their reputation is basically founded on that album. Me: 3. Your point about King Crimson is..? They are rated off that first album. One, that is dumb (to not rate each album, separately) and two they suck—go figure! Can't be bothered to copy the rest.
post #22 of 28
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Lol, there are so many hipster bands who suck. King Crimson, Black Sabbath, Radiohead, U2, etc. Apparently, you need Xgau to tell you that! *rolls eyes

Are you 50+ years of age?
post #23 of 28
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Are you 50+ years of age?
Why does that matter? Jesus, I can't believe so many people bypass thought processes?!
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by JapanAlex01 View Post
Jesus Christ, firstly, I said that he rated album by album, specifically, and doesn't just say 'oh, that band is great' (when one or more of their albums could stink"”most Radiohead fans make blanket statements).

I am fully aware of that, however you said it directly after talking about KC, which leads one to believe that you meant it in reference to KC, so whether it be to you not proofreading your own posts or your poor grasp on the English language, you linked the statements together.

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Secondly, you were the one who said he didn't take their impact on music into consideration. Not all impact is good! Also, how could they have impact after one album?

Because even a single song can be extraodinarily influential (eg Rapper's Delight), this statement is comfortably the most stupid thing you've written all night.

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He rated it when it came out"”which is what most hipsters seem to forget.

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm a hipster, however insulting someone by saying that, regardless of whether or not it's true, is extremely childish and irrelevant to what we're talking about.

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you are the one who is dismissing relevant things"”like, how he is a great writer, listens many times before making a decision and understands things like song craftsmanship and form, etc.

More or less every critic listens multiple times unless they write for something like the Metro, almost every critic also understands 'song craftsmanship' (an extremely broad and stupid term) and 'form', to say things like this is just very vague and ultimately proves nothing seeing as we have no idea if he even does this.

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No.



Also I will no longer be replying to this thread, you have proven you know very little about music already as you simply take Christgau as gospel and think that a band cannot make any sort of impact from one album, despite the fact that many influential bands have only ever released one album, and I feel this argument is going nowhere and to be honest it's quite depressing talking to someone who talks about people who don't like Lil' Wayne being lower in the gene pool, despite the fact you know nothing of my life or education. Have a nice time wearing blue outfits and listening to Soulja Boy, ta-ta
post #25 of 28
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Thank you! 'I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm a hipster, however insulting someone by saying that, regardless of whether or not it's true, is extremely childish and irrelevant to what we're talking about.' That was the first unhateful/smart thing you have said, which is nice, and I'll admit it was wrong for me to say that (although, I still stand by hipsters being, generally, doltish). I'm not above admitting that some people dislike Xgau. It doesn't bother me, in fact, a few people have said so, in this post! You are just an arrogant arsehole and need to grow up! You can say why you dislike something but be smart about it! I'm just glad you won't reply (and stop stalking me too, thanks!). This will leave the topic open for (whether they like the man, or not) smart people capable of smart conversation! How do you know I know nothing of education, etc? *rolls eyes Oh course, there are many bands who have made influences in music who only released one album. But that takes time. It generally happens after it has been reviewed! Terms like song craftsmanship are not empty, at all! You just don't understand them—which is fine!
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Popol Vuh View Post
nothing of my life or education

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How do you know I know nothing of education, etc? *rolls eyes

Reading isn't your forte is it?

Last post, I promise
post #27 of 28
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Sucking dick is yours!
post #28 of 28
I find it funny that this thread about a music critic derailed into an argument about said music critic between two terrible critics.
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