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post #16 of 21
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For fuck's sake people, of course South Korea is developed. I included it because hey don't have the same tradition of tailored menswear as the aforementioned countries.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by gandhi View Post
In my experience Malaysia is slightly preferable to being made in China. Brooks Brothers seems to outsource alot of their production to Malaysia.

Brooks uses Malaysia for all of their non-iron shirts because the company there owns the patent on them. They also outsource some of their work there because the existing contracts on their shirts gives them lots of flexibility for negotiating terms on other items when demand warrants.

Canada makes some great stuff, including a lot of the high end trousers for Brooks. We're lucky to have a few good MTM companies here and some other wholesalers like Jack Victor.

Country generally doesn't matter any more. Lots of stuff made in Italy because it's considered a prestigious country in clothing, but the conditions can be just as bad there as anywhere else. On the other hand, conditions in China can be downright amazing. I had a long conversation with Claudio del Vecchio (Owner of Brooks Brothers) about this when he visited the store I worked at. I asked him why Brooks Brothers started manufacturing some items in China and the conversation sort of followed.

Companies are generally not just interested in low cost of labour, but the cost of tariffs and shipping as well. China, Turkey, Romania, etc happen to be very competitive in this regard.

It's a global economy. If a company wants the best craftsmen on their product. They'll pay them enough to move where they need them. Paying the best Italian craftsmen to move to China is a lot cheaper than paying the tariffs out of another country.

I'm interested in hearing lots of other thoughts on the matter.
post #18 of 21
I trust any product from the Vatican City. Lovely socks
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I trust any product from the Vatican City. Lovely socks
And His Holiness' Red Shoes: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...31&FORM=IDFRIR
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Big pimp cane = big pimp shoes, with all due respect.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sartorial View Post
Brooks uses Malaysia for all of their non-iron shirts because the company there owns the patent on them. They also outsource some of their work there because the existing contracts on their shirts gives them lots of flexibility for negotiating terms on other items when demand warrants.

Canada makes some great stuff, including a lot of the high end trousers for Brooks. We're lucky to have a few good MTM companies here and some other wholesalers like Jack Victor.

Country generally doesn't matter any more. Lots of stuff made in Italy because it's considered a prestigious country in clothing, but the conditions can be just as bad there as anywhere else. On the other hand, conditions in China can be downright amazing. I had a long conversation with Claudio del Vecchio (Owner of Brooks Brothers) about this when he visited the store I worked at. I asked him why Brooks Brothers started manufacturing some items in China and the conversation sort of followed.

Companies are generally not just interested in low cost of labour, but the cost of tariffs and shipping as well. China, Turkey, Romania, etc happen to be very competitive in this regard.

It's a global economy. If a company wants the best craftsmen on their product. They'll pay them enough to move where they need them. Paying the best Italian craftsmen to move to China is a lot cheaper than paying the tariffs out of another country.

I'm interested in hearing lots of other thoughts on the matter.



I agree that some company's with the financial ability to recruit top tailors and take them overseas is not a bad thing.. Just the other day I saw a video on youtube about a Savile Row Co. who sent their master tailor to train tailors in china.. I looked at many different tailors based out of asia and could not settle on one. Being that my business venture is in its infancy, I decided to utilize two tailors for my co. One is a great made to measure company in Toronto, Canada.. He is one of the few tailors who will make a full bench-made suit... Old world italian tailoring with a little modern twist.. I also have a tailor here in the U.S... Both Use imported materials, and It will cost me a bit more.... But this makes the most sense for me... Larger company's have many options, and they will choose one were the bottom line is a higher profit margin.... In the end, you can get a great product or a horrible product, It all depends on what your personal preferences are...
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