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post #16 of 41
This happens a few times every season, but generally the items are severely underpriced.
However, they sell out in minutes so most people never see them, or the price is removed and it's labeled as sold out.

The best I've ever seen was a couple of years ago when they had Lobb Becketts and Vale for $95. I scored 3 pairs with an additional 10% off code

Ironically, that same season they actually had an Isaia 100% cashmere navy blazer for $95, or 80% less than the tie.
It seems that when they deal with so much inventory, certain mispricings creep in from time to time.
post #17 of 41
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Originally Posted by joezm81 View Post
This happens a few times every season, but generally the items are severely underpriced. However, they sell out in minutes so most people never see them, or the price is removed and it's labeled as sold out. The best I've ever seen was a couple of years ago when they had Lobb Becketts and Vale for $95. I scored 3 pairs with an additional 10% off code Ironically, that same season they actually had an Isaia 100% cashmere navy blazer for $95, or 80% less than the tie. It seems that when they deal with so much inventory, certain mispricings creep in from time to time.
One season they had three colors of the same McQueen sandals... two of which were the normal price (nearly $300) and the other, which was $39. I snagged that one and have enjoyed them ever since. That was the only time I bought one of their seeming "errors," though I have seen them several times. $95 Lobbs, though, sounds like the deal of the century. Anyway, about the tie, keeping in mind that they were $630 or whatever, marked down to $490, it seems possible ($63 for new Isaia, half price from $120 or so retail, marked down to $49.) Just a guess. Often their $100-175 ties are listed in the $60-90 range.
post #18 of 41
490=$90

Maybe?
post #19 of 41
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
It totally depends, because not only do they get closeouts from stores/boutiques, but they also act as the "outlet" directly for certain brands. Those brands sometimes stipulate the prices.

BUT, as you said, some of their items (especially for very "hot" or popular brands) are not half off. And, you also have to keep in mind that in some cases they may not even KNOW what the "original" price even was, given that many of the items don't have tags (though are new.) As such, I'd say that they do the best they can, with the info they have. I mean, they screw up sometimes, but overall I think it works.

In short: Yoox isn't a "scam." It's wonderful for what it is and I've been happy with the dozens and dozens of orders I've placed with them, and when I wasn't it was very easy to return.


they should not claim to be half off of retail, when they are not. that is very misleading, and in my opinion, a scam. if they take awayy the claim that the "yoox price" i would no longer feel the same way, but until that happens and while i find items at less than 50% off - i feel my statement is fair.

to illustrate my point, i did a quick seach for dior. the first item that caught by eye that i know pricing for, are a pair of dior jeans. 19' raw dior jeans retail for 260 pounds, 21' around the same price. some of their pre distressed do retails for over 400, but not raw jeans.
for example:
http://www.brownsfashion.com/pages/c...ookie%5Ftest=1

so, the yoox price you ask? 198 pounds, so yoox is claiming these retail at 396 pounds which i feel is competely false and misleading. so in this case, yoox pricing is around 25% off retail, far off the 50% off yoox claim is the minimum.
http://www1.yoox.com/item/YOOX/DIOR+...N/sts/sr_men80


thats the first and last search i'll do on this topic, i would encourage others to do a bit of research on the real retail price and let us know if you think yoox are misleading consumers, or not
post #20 of 41
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Originally Posted by lovelux2010 View Post
they should not claim to be half off of retail, when they are not. that is very misleading, and in my opinion, a scam. if they take that disclaimer about the "yoox price" i would no longer feel the same way, but until that happens and while i find items at less than 50% off - i am standing by my statment
But they don't claim "retail," as another poster mentioned. They said "suggested price." In many cases, they may not even know the retail, or be able to be close to that, given that some of the items they get are in varying currencies. SO, it's a general statement they make, and sounds very vague. It's not a legally binding requirement to the penny. Besides, what in the world do you want? They make a general claim to be approx. half off the suggested prices for items, which for the most part is true. If they are 70% off, which is MORE than half, are you still going to whine? That's, technically, NOT what they wrote... OMG! Simplest thing for you, I suppose, is just not to shop at yoox. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy getting good prices on designer duds. Edit; I'm going to highlight below again what YOU quoted from yoox. It seems just to be a general informational thing, not their legal-team written promise:
Quote:
YOOX price is equivalent to approximately half the designer's original suggested price. The savings may be further increased in the event of promotions and sales: in this case, the initial YOOX price will be crossed out and may be reduced up to 90% off the original price. YOOX is not just a selection of clothing and accessories from previous collections, but an extraordinary assortment that ranges from exclusive products, vintage collectibles, special editions, and an original selection of design and books. The YOOX price for these items is determined on an individual basis and may be reduced in the event of various promotions."
post #21 of 41
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Originally Posted by Klobber View Post
The tie is cute! $490 bucks cute? No way. As per above, must be a typing error.

However, removing a zero, do you guys not think that $49 is a little cheap for a brand new ISAIA tie?

it's 2.8" wide, ugly, and shiny. i think it's a $49 tie
post #22 of 41
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Originally Posted by lovelux2010 View Post
they should not claim to be half off of retail, when they are not. that is very misleading, and in my opinion, a scam. if they take that disclaimer about the "yoox price" i would no longer feel the same way, but until that happens and while i find items at less than 50% off - i am standing by my statment to illustrate my point, i did a quick seach for dior. the first item that caught by eye that i know pricing for, are a pair of dior jeans. 19' raw dior jeans retail for 260 pounds, 21' around the same price. some of their pre distressed do retails for over 400, but not raw jeans. for example: http://www.brownsfashion.com/pages/c...ookie%5Ftest=1 so, the yoox price you ask? 198 pounds, so yoox is claiming these retail at 396 pounds which i feel is competely false and misleading. so in this case, yoox pricing is around 25% off retail, far off the 50% off yoox claim is the minimum. http://www1.yoox.com/item/YOOX/DIOR+...N/sts/sr_men80 thats the first and last search i'll do on this topic, i would encourage others to do a bit of research on the real retail price and let us know if you think yoox are misleading consumers, or not
Simple: then you (personally) shouldn't buy from yoox! They'll charge what they think they can get, and IN GENERAL, which is ALL that the little informational blurb you posted talks about, their prices are half retail or more. THEY DON'T CLAIM IT IS THE MINIMUM. Read the blurb. It is an informational, general blurb, not a legal guarantee. Jeeeeez.
post #23 of 41
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
It totally depends, because not only do they get closeouts from stores/boutiques, but they also act as the "outlet" directly for certain brands. Those brands sometimes stipulate the prices.

BUT, as you said, some of their items (especially for very "hot" or popular brands) are not half off. And, you also have to keep in mind that in some cases they may not even KNOW what the "original" price even was, given that many of the items don't have tags (though are new.) As such, I'd say that they do the best they can, with the info they have. I mean, they screw up sometimes, but overall I think it works.

In short: Yoox isn't a "scam." It's wonderful for what it is and I've been happy with the dozens and dozens of orders I've placed with them, and when I wasn't it was very easy to return.

+1. You can pick your spots with Yoox and get great deals. And if you're willing to pay for shipping (I am, as I view it as the same as the cost of my time and gas to go to a mall), you can order and return what you don't like. I've probably kept less than 1/3 of what I have ordered, but the ones I kept have been great deals.
post #24 of 41
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
But they don't claim "retail," as another poster mentioned. They said "suggested price." In many cases, they may not even know the retail, .... Besides, what in the world do you want? They make a general claim to be approx. half off the suggested prices for items, which for the most part is true.

If they are 70% off, which is MORE than half, are you still going to whine? That's, technically, NOT what they wrote... OMG! Simplest thing for you, I suppose, is just not to shop at yoox. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy getting good prices on designer duds.


Exactly!

There are some great deals to be had, and you can simply ignore the "overpriced/less than 50% off" stuff.



Also, for those that don't believe.....


http://www1.yoox.com/item.asp/tskay/...L/sts/orders80

http://www1.yoox.com/item.asp/tskay/...M/sts/orders80



ITEM COLOR SIZE QUANTITY PRICE
Moccassins
JOHN LOBB

Brown 7 (UK)
LABEL: 7 (UK) 1 $ 95.00
$ 86.00
Moccassins
JOHN LOBB

Brown 9.5 (UK)
LABEL: 9.5 (UK) 1 $ 95.00
$ 86.00
Laced shoes
JOHN LOBB

Dark blue 7 (UK)
LABEL: 7 (UK) 1 $ 95.00
$ 86.00
Subtotal

$ 258.00


DELIVERY METHOD Standard Delivery in 5-8 business days

Charges $ 9.50
PAYMENT METHOD Credit Card
Charges $ 0
Sales Tax: $ 0
TOTAL $ 267.50
post #25 of 41
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Originally Posted by rach2jlc View Post
Simple: then you (personally) shouldn't buy from yoox! They'll charge what they think they can get, and IN GENERAL, which is ALL that the little informational blurb you posted talks about, their prices are half retail or more.

THEY DON'T CLAIM IT IS THE MINIMUM. Read the blurb.


i dont buy from yoox, but i have looked at the site. i will quote the blurb below. i read this as them claiming they are usually half or more off of retail, but i could find you a LOT of examples of pricing that is 15% or so off retail - so i think the below is VERY misleading. leave it to the rest of the forum to decide as we clearly have different opinions on this. in the example i show above yoox is 25% OFF, which is a far far cry from 50% off, so i would argue "approximately half the designers original suggested price" is not true


"The YOOX price is equivalent to approximately half the designer's original suggested price. The savings may be further increased in the event of promotions and sales: in this case, the initial YOOX price will be crossed out and may be reduced up to 90% off the original price.

YOOX is not just a selection of clothing and accessories from previous collections, but an extraordinary assortment that ranges from exclusive products, vintage collectibles, special editions, and an original selection of design and books. The YOOX price for these items is determined on an individual basis and may be reduced in the event of various promotions."
post #26 of 41
You can quote that blurb all day long, and it's not going to say what you want it to say. You even admit "USUALLY" they claim to be half off or more. The site has tens of thousands of items. Even if you found me 300 items priced LESS than 50% off, that's still vastly in the minority. The vast majority are more than 50%, and their GENERAL INFORMATIONAL BLURB is accurate. I have bought from yoox dozens and dozens of times, and know the "good/bad/ugly" of the site. It has some problems, but overall for most things is great, and has a great returns policy. Your information is incorrect, and your pickiness comes from a misreading of a blurb, or a bias about the site. If you don't want to shop there, fine, but calling it a "scam" is a bit much. People on SF often want something for nothing, and instead of saying, "Wow, 25% off for BNWT Dior standards!" bitch because they can't get it for 50% off. Seriously, this site is full of this kind of this. I... just...dont...get...it. P.s. They may, who knows, claim that Dior items are part of the "Exclusive items" listed in that blurb, which have a price "determined on an individual basis." SO, they could charge 400% more than retail, if they wanted.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovelux2010 View Post
i dont buy from yoox, but i have looked at the site. i will quote the blurb below. i read this as them claiming they are usually half or more off of retail, but i could find you a LOT of examples of pricing that is 15% or so off retail - so i think the below is VERY misleading. leave it to the rest of the forum to decide as we clearly have different opinions on this. in the example i show above yoox is 25% OFF, which is a far far cry from 50% off, so i would argue "approximately half the designers original suggested price" is not true "The YOOX price is equivalent to approximately half the designer's original suggested price. The savings may be further increased in the event of promotions and sales: in this case, the initial YOOX price will be crossed out and may be reduced up to 90% off the original price. YOOX is not just a selection of clothing and accessories from previous collections, but an extraordinary assortment that ranges from exclusive products, vintage collectibles, special editions, and an original selection of design and books. The YOOX price for these items is determined on an individual basis and may be reduced in the event of various promotions."
post #27 of 41
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Originally Posted by OttoSkadelig View Post
it's 2.8" wide, ugly, and shiny. i think it's a $49 tie

The cute factor dissapears when it is 2.8" wide - way too skinny. Thought the tie was 3.5"+ wide. I quite like the pattern though.
post #28 of 41
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Originally Posted by joezm81 View Post
Exactly!

There are some great deals to be had, and you can simply ignore the "overpriced/less than 50% off" stuff.



Also, for those that don't believe.....


http://www1.yoox.com/item.asp/tskay/...L/sts/orders80

http://www1.yoox.com/item.asp/tskay/...M/sts/orders80



ITEM COLOR SIZE QUANTITY PRICE
Moccassins
JOHN LOBB

Brown 7 (UK)
LABEL: 7 (UK) 1 $ 95.00
$ 86.00
Moccassins
JOHN LOBB

Brown 9.5 (UK)
LABEL: 9.5 (UK) 1 $ 95.00
$ 86.00
Laced shoes
JOHN LOBB

Dark blue 7 (UK)
LABEL: 7 (UK) 1 $ 95.00
$ 86.00
Subtotal

$ 258.00


DELIVERY METHOD Standard Delivery in 5-8 business days

Charges $ 9.50
PAYMENT METHOD Credit Card
Charges $ 0
Sales Tax: $ 0
TOTAL $ 267.50




I hate you so much right now))
post #29 of 41
There is a Kiton tie on ebay for $400, but it's reversible. So I guess it's only $200 each. http://cgi.ebay.com/Kiton-cashmere-t...#ht_500wt_1156
post #30 of 41
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Originally Posted by joezm81 View Post
Exactly! Also, for those that don't believe.....
BTW, were they in the old season collection or in the new collection? And were the on sale? or these were initial prices?
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