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post #841 of 1779
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Originally Posted by pocketsquareguy View Post

Nice pants. Did you re-order based upon measurements from two years ago or did you visit him?
Yep, same measurements as the previous order. Didn't get to see him on my recent trip, as he was in Asia.

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Originally Posted by Frankie22 View Post

Good thing you don't own a business. And if you do, It aint going to last long. Foo was more than reasonable and gave this guy what 8 grand for freaking pants? 

Do you pay 1000 per pant? If you did, would you expect them to be flawless and to receive a certain level of service?Anyone who EARNED their money would.
The $1000 figure that gets thrown around is a red herring. Some of his pants may cost that, but few do. Mine, for example, didn't nearly reach that figure.

As with many if not most tailors, the price depends on various factors, such as fabric, size of order, when you became a customer, if you order directly or through a third party, if you order in Naples or on tour, and if you will pick up or have them shipped.
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Still, I do think there was something to Foo's complaints, and I hope he and Ambrosi are able to work something out. I made some suggestions to both of them back then, but I don't know what a perfect solution would be.
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Originally Posted by lee_44106 View Post

How do you compare the fit of these Ambrosis to your Chans? A comparison would be nice.
Handwork and visible stitiching marks are nice and all, but fru-fru is is fru-fru.
The fit is very similar, which makes sense, since Salvatore based the fit of my first order on the Chans I was wearing at the time in addition to his own measurements. The pairs from Ambrosi are noticeably more comfortable. But, as others have said, this could be due to changes in the cut, additional handwork (which is substantial), and/or different fabrics.

I'll post some comparison pics when I get some time.
post #842 of 1779
Why are people STILL wasting time and money on Ambrosi? His most staunch advocate has denounced them publicly yet fools and their money....

Avoid.
post #843 of 1779
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post

Yep, same measurements as the previous order. Didn't get to see him on my recent trip, as he was in Asia.
The $1000 figure that gets thrown around is a red herring. Some of his pants may cost that, but few do. Mine, for example, didn't nearly reach that figure.
As with many if not most tailors, the price depends on various factors, such as fabric, size of order, when you became a customer, if you order directly or through a third party, if you order in Naples or on tour, and if you will pick up or have them shipped.
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Still, I do think there was something to Foo's complaints, and I hope he and Ambrosi are able to work something out. I made some suggestions to both of them back then, but I don't know what a perfect solution would be.
The fit is very similar, which makes sense, since Salvatore based the fit of my first order on the Chans I was wearing at the time in addition to his own measurements. The pairs from Ambrosi are noticeably more comfortable. But, as others have said, this could be due to changes in the cut, additional handwork (which is substantial), and/or different fabrics.
I'll post some comparison pics when I get some time.

how much did your Ambrosi's run?

Does he charge a different amount based on length of relationship?
post #844 of 1779
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post


Yep, same measurements as the previous order. Didn't get to see him on my recent trip, as he was in Asia.
The $1000 figure that gets thrown around is a red herring. Some of his pants may cost that, but few do. Mine, for example, didn't nearly reach that figure.
As with many if not most tailors, the price depends on various factors, such as fabric, size of order, when you became a customer, if you order directly or through a third party, if you order in Naples or on tour, and if you will pick up or have them shipped.
'
Still, I do think there was something to Foo's complaints, and I hope he and Ambrosi are able to work something out. I made some suggestions to both of them back then, but I don't know what a perfect solution would be.
The fit is very similar, which makes sense, since Salvatore based the fit of my first order on the Chans I was wearing at the time in addition to his own measurements. The pairs from Ambrosi are noticeably more comfortable. But, as others have said, this could be due to changes in the cut, additional handwork (which is substantial), and/or different fabrics.
I'll post some comparison pics when I get some time.

That's fine -- my point, Foo was more than reasonable with this guy; at the least Foo deserves an apology and for Ambrosi to make things right. There have been multiple posters airing grievances within this thread, several who forked over large sums of cash only to be ignored and avoided -- to me, that is bad business.

 

If you offer a product or service, you deliver that product or service based on the promises you make. If someone tells you five centimeters and you deliver an old patterns incorrect measurements and or deviate from the agreement, you are in the wrong, unless of course your are a pri madonna with zero regard for your customers. Which is also fine, but you're probably leaving a lot of money on the table via scorned clients and your tarnished reputation. 

post #845 of 1779
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post

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These look nice. What is the point of the two buttons on the waistband? - the band doesn't look elasticized (and there are belt loops regardless), so what purpose does the second button serve?

post #846 of 1779
^ Thanks. Despos and I had a discussion about them when I posted pics of a pair in the first few pages of “The Tailors’ Thread.” At the time we speculated they were part of SA's love of symmetry. But since then, I saw a photo and description of two buttons in Villarosa and Angeli's detailed Elegant Man, p. 75. Fwiw, the description reads, "Some pants come with a strap that follows the waist and can be fastened to the one or two buttons attached to the other side of the waist. Two buttons make it easier to adjust the waist and are therefore recommended."

Being reminded of those photos allows me to post them here for Lee to compare w/ Chan ones below:
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And here are the Chan pants. I never posted these before, but I took them a while ago.:
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post #847 of 1779
Both are very nice. I like the top pair better, but that may just be because the fabric seems to hold a better crease.
post #848 of 1779
Both pairs look great -- i especially like the forward pleat. Every other pair of Ambrosi trousers i've seen has had two reverse pleats -- Is there a reason you had Ambrosi copy your Chan trousers rather than just letting them do their house style?
post #849 of 1779
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Originally Posted by ThinkDerm View Post

how much did your Ambrosi's run?
Does he charge a different amount based on length of relationship?
I'll tell you the first on on the way to DW. Isn't the second is answered in my post that you quoted?
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Originally Posted by ctp120 View Post

Both are very nice. I like the top pair better, but that may just be because the fabric seems to hold a better crease.
That's a midweight cavalry twill, I think by Drapers. The other is HS Crispaire. The new ones are fairly lightweight flannel, I think by Drapers/VBC, and a stout linen by... no idea.
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Originally Posted by Knowledge is King View Post

Both pairs look great -- i especially like the forward pleat. Every other pair of Ambrosi trousers i've seen has had two reverse pleats -- Is there a reason you had Ambrosi copy your Chan trousers rather than just letting them do their house style?
Thanks. To be precise, I didn't ask for him to copy them and I wouldn't say he did exactly. I brought the Chan pair to show him the general style I liked. He thought they fit very well and liked the forward pleat. He said he usually doesn't like to do pleats that way, but he would for me, since he thought it looked good.

Btw, the pleats on the Ambrosi pair above are stitched down for the first 1.5" starting from the waistband. They are on my other pants from Chan too, including the pair I showed SA. Not sure why they aren't on these.
post #850 of 1779
emptym, great post. What fabrics are these? CMT or Ambrosi supplied?
post #851 of 1779
That's a great looking pair of pents, M. Are they truly ambrosial?
post #852 of 1779

The Ambrosi pleat looks amazing...

post #853 of 1779
Superb pents. Really like the fabrics.

Maybe just the photos but do the Chan hang cleaner in the back than the Ambrosi in real life?
The pleats look a bit neater on the Ambrosi how they don't open as much.
post #854 of 1779
I personally don't see the need to own (and pay for) perfect pants. The PRL Preston pant is all one needs (at a deep discount, of course).
post #855 of 1779
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post

^ Thanks. Despos and I had a discussion about them when I posted pics of a pair in the first few pages of “The Tailors’ Thread.” At the time we speculated they were part of SA's love of symmetry. But since then, I saw a photo and description of two buttons in Villarosa and Angeli's detailed Elegant Man, p. 75. Fwiw, the description reads, "Some pants come with a strap that follows the waist and can be fastened to the one or two buttons attached to the other side of the waist. Two buttons make it easier to adjust the waist and are therefore recommended."
Being reminded of those photos allows me to post them here for Lee to compare w/ Chan ones below:

And here are the Chan pants. I never posted these before, but I took them a while ago.:

Emptym

Are the two watch pockets a specific feature of Ambrosi trousers please? They do not appear to be in the Chan pair and would suggest that they are something some have specifically ordered?
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