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post #1546 of 1859
So anyone gone to the Armoury NYC soft opening yet?
post #1547 of 1859
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

$1200 is about the same price for bespoke pants from Steed. The issue for me is that it is hard to justify that price for odd pants. I think I accept that same price for suit pants because I have no choice.

+1

 

I do have bespoke from several French, Italian and English tailors. However for odd pants, I use Luxire or cheap MTM houses in Paris that cost roughly 170-230€ for trousers (230€ being for Loro Piana winter Pima cotton). I'm very happy with the fit and can't ever justify paying 1000€ for odd trousers.

post #1548 of 1859
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Originally Posted by SeamasterLux View Post

+1

I do have bespoke from several French, Italian and English tailors. However for odd pants, I use Luxire or cheap MTM houses in Paris that cost roughly 170-230€ for trousers (230€ being for Loro Piana winter Pima cotton). I'm very happy with the fit and can't ever justify paying 1000€ for odd trousers.

This is the result of igent myths build up. The guy use to make outsourced trousers for sartoria at 70 euro a pop, and if approached directly, due to the extra client interaction, 150-300 euro cmt.. Now charging 1000 Euro? He should be sending commission to Michael Alden and Mafofan that basically created this myth...

I get all my odd trousers bespoke and pay way less then some MTM places...
post #1549 of 1859
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Originally Posted by marcodalondra View Post

This is the result of igent myths build up. The guy use to make outsourced trousers for sartoria at 70 euro a pop, and if approached directly, due to the extra client interaction, 150-300 euro cmt.. Now charging 1000 Euro? He should be sending commission to Michael Alden and Mafofan that basically created this myth...

I get all my odd trousers bespoke and pay way less then some MTM places...
there is truth to this though you are also neglecting oncewasmatt, who was probably the most significant validator, having both the experience and the lack of commercial motivation to be credible. What you are not doing is giving Salvatore credit for all the work he has done expanding and promoting his business, especially in Asia. That has not been easy, and while it is true that he was once working with his father for other tailors, he has since built a sizable business and reputation and, presumably has many satisfied customers, even at the now very high price point. That was through hard work.
post #1550 of 1859
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Originally Posted by SonofGoldman View Post
 

Despite everyone saying Rtw pants being typically "close enough" I've always had an issue with pents.  Going to try to commission them bespoke but I'd probably sample some Ambrosi if I were ever within 1,000 miles of a trunk show...

 

It's posts like yours that make me go :brick:

post #1551 of 1859
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Originally Posted by marcodalondra View Post

This is the result of igent myths build up. The guy use to make outsourced trousers for sartoria at 70 euro a pop, and if approached directly, due to the extra client interaction, 150-300 euro cmt.. Now charging 1000 Euro? He should be sending commission to Michael Alden and Mafofan that basically created this myth...

I get all my odd trousers bespoke and pay way less then some MTM places...

Very true but the Myth factory is still in actively working at full steam and always will because people here are looking beyond the Big names/brands to find a Sartorial Holy Grail..
post #1552 of 1859
Dopey,

Would these Asian operations working with him ever found him without the igentry coverage? I doubt it very much. Hard work? Well neglecting existing customers and being dropped by many sartoria in Naples (his traditional field).

The bottom line is that all this bubble serves to inflate his pricing and post like yours seems to justify and keep alive the myth so that even nice people still fantasise about getting an holy grail pair of trousers from him.... Well, again, there are better trouser makers in Naples at very reasonable prices. I know Mola his available in Japan through a third party fitter.

Ciao
post #1553 of 1859
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Originally Posted by marcodalondra View Post

I get all my odd trousers bespoke and pay way less then some MTM places...

This is one of the many reasons I wish I spoke Italian...
post #1554 of 1859
Marcodondra: you will notice that I agreed with you to the extent you claim the internet helped launch Ambrosi - my only real comment on that is you left out one of the most credible early Ambrosi supporters. My other point is that you have ignored Ambrosi's own contribution. There have been many iGent darlings who have not had Ambrosi's success. For whatever reasons, and some must be owing to him, he has managed to build his business and partner with a number of other establishments. That isn't easy.
Whether he warrants the prices charged is another matter. I have maybe ten pairs of trousers from him. Maybe a few more. But I was an early customer and I wouldn't have any at the current prices. I have also never had any problems with his service (to the contrary, it was excellent) but I understand that others have. Whether people think of him as a grail maker is, of course, their business.
post #1555 of 1859
Thread Starter 
Hello Sir marcodalondra

well, I'm out of this round for the past years, and I repeat all (all) of my "customers" are happy ... my only ingenuity in conducting my business, and it's too much to follow my passion...
unlike others, I have turned my passion into a business world .. so, now you can talk about me and how I conduct my business,but believe me, I work for HOnG Kong-Tokyo-Seoul-Osaka-hannover-amsterdam-Honululu-los-angeles-new york toronto, and have two showrooms, one in Naples and one in Milan, does it mean something .. and the first thing I'm good at my job (pants) and the second is that behind all this there hard work and sacrifice of own lives ....
my company-ambrosi napoli Srl,the past year has built 2,000 bespoke trousers ... this just makes it clear to her that what you thinks and what she writes, of which we are proud,because the opposite and contrary to what we do in our business ...

us we work for inspiration ...

. but remember one important thing, I started working when I was only 8 years old, I am now 33 ... in just 12 years working in the world, including errors and problems, I managed to create one of the most solid and well-known companies in the world!! this is my goal .............

Best,
From best manufacturer of pants you've ever known
post #1556 of 1859
Then he encounters Michael Alden, a bespoke specialist, who publishes a post about him on his blog The London Lounge. Soon after, a rapid and unexpected course of events, and Salvatore meets some of the most influential buyers from China, Japan and Korea, who will pave the way for him on the big and demanding Oriental market. 

Seven years ago, the first trip to New York to meet two private customers. “I didn’t even speak a word of English – he tells – so I bought a flight ticket for my uncle, emigrant to Baltimore, so that he could help me with the language.”

post #1557 of 1859
Dear Mr Ambrosi,

Thanks for your reply but obviously not all of your customer are really happy with your business as the many complaint on this forum prove. I would focus on resolving the issues promptly with the existing clients before expanding further, instead of calling them fat like you did with Mafoofan on the "Ambrosi warning" thread.

I know the Neapolitan market very well and I do not agree you are the best trousermaker in the world but you are free to believe it, certay for that market (where you produce) the price your trousers are reportedly retailing (albeit with obvious high margin for your partners are at least 4-5 times what one would pay in Naples. Increasing production would mean potential decrease in price not the other way around.

Anyway, well done for establishing such a business but do not believe you are already there as unhappy clients could as easily affect your dream.

Regards
post #1558 of 1859
I thought he resolved Foo's issues, eventually... confused.gif
post #1559 of 1859
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I thought he resolved Foo's issues, eventually... confused.gif

 

Not everybody got the memo, I think. I had to ask, too.

post #1560 of 1859
I will speak as one of Salvatore's satisfied customers. Like Dopey, I have around 12 pairs of trousers including ones he made as part of suits during the Solito collaboration days. In fact, had it not been for Salvatore's direct intervention on my behalf, I would likely have never received my final two coats from Solito, and for that, I will always be grateful.

If you are linked to Salvatore on Facebook you can see how much time he spends on the road and the amount of effort he has put into growing his clientele and reach. This should be applauded, not ridiculed. He has reached a level of success that is certainly commendable. Clearly his aspirations were not limited to remaining a local provider.

As for the issues on other clients, show me any bespoke tailor who has a 100% customer satisfaction rate, I wager you can't. And for his prices, like anything else, if the market will pay it, then that's that.
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