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post #1021 of 1785
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Unbelievable.
I won't bother answering to the personal insults, but to set the record straight:
1. I did put on weight. That's why I wanted to have new pants made (10 total). I asked you to make the first pair with 5cm extra in the waist, while adding some length to the legs. To make this first pair, I gave you some grey flannel cloth from Minnis during one of your visits to New York. Incidentally, the newly requested adjustments were aimed at bringing the pants back to their original pattern from 2007--since that time, you had reduced my waist by 5cm.
2. I received this first pair in the mail a few months later. They were correctly made, as per my requested changes. We discussed by e-mail that I would visit you in Naples so that you and your father could observe the fit of the new pants before making the rest of the order (the nine other pants). During my visit in Naples, I delivered the more Minnis flannel, as well as 13 oz. linen from W. Bill. You agreed the new fit works and noted some other adjustments, chiefly reducing the rear rise, as the cloth was sagging under the belt line. At this time, you promised you would have the rest of the pants complete within a few weeks.
*** The important point to note here is that you made and acknowledged changes to my pattern, as reflected by the first pair you made in my order. The other nine pants were made without these changes--as if I had never visited you in Naples. ***
3. When I received the other nine pants, I immediately recognized the error and contacted you. You admitted your mistake, stating you had forgotten to execute the changes we had agreed to. You apologized and asked me to send back the pants. You stated you had enough extra fabric to remake the rear of the pants. I asked if you needed the fabric codes, in case you needed to order more. You said you did not, as you already recognized the fabric and had the codes.
4. I received the repaired pants, and immediately noticed that you had not re-cut the rears. Instead, you simply let out the pants from the rear center seam by 5cm. The resulting fit was awkward as the seat no longer contoured correctly and the pockets were now oddly far apart. Also, in order to let the pants out so much, you had to unfinish the seam allowances and left only half a centimeter of extra fabric on each side of the seam.
5. I complained about the execution, and you apologized again, stating that your workers must not have been paying attention to your instructions. You asked for the fabric codes. I supplied them to you.
6. I never heard back after giving you the codes. Another client of yours, and a good friend of mine, asked you about my trousers. You told him that if I ever tried to contact you again, you would have your Korean business partners send lawyers after me in the United States.
7. As a result of this threat, I posted the above story on Styleforum.
Is there anything above that is inaccurate?
I realize English is not your first language, so I recommend you have an English speaker who knows Italian translate the above for you. It is not worth continuing any further discussion if we cannot at least understand each other.
What attempts? Jan, you personally know that Salvatore has not been responding to me. That's why I asked if you knew what was going on.


Foo....Very detailed!
post #1022 of 1785
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Originally Posted by ter1413 View Post

Foo....Very detailed!

Yes, and there is visual proof, but I don't have time today to dig up old photos or take new ones. The difference between the first pair and the rest tell the full story.
post #1023 of 1785
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Originally Posted by Ambrosi View Post

in my life I have traveled all over the world, I started 12 years ago in London, then USA, then from there I started to go to Russia and now are around every month for 10 days in 6 continents ... but who can ever believe that a dwarf with the oval head to distract my reputation??? I never responded to this little man, because I was too busy working, but tonight I'm off to a bar in Tokyo surrounded by many friends, and after having had a terrific day of work we decided to amuse a bit with the nano the oval head .... First please show photos of these famous pants, according to everything you say and pure invention, I do MTM ready to wear? do not even know what you're saying, I work for the best shops in the world, and my clients do not even know you exist, you are a Moscow ..... I met you many years ago on this site and here I find you, but that dwarf Oval Head future if you think you have only to write things on the internet, think about how you manage your life .. not to think about how to manage my actions speak I work in five countries in Asia, 2 in America, 5 in Europe .. reckoned my step forward, give back the money to me it would be like to have dinner with 3 friends in my tokio, but the point that I did not make any mistakes and you will not get your money back, you're put on weight and want to get some new pants .. now everyone here if they have noticed....many of you have so many of my pants, and many do not have my pants, but we all know the dwarf oval head, why do you .. I never watch this site because I do not have much free time, for this is certainly not light all your actions and those of the dwarf with the oval head, but if some of you have questions send me an email address to Ambrosi.napoli @ gmail.com .... gentlemen have fun, and do not speak ill of me I'm a good boy :-))))))


Wow.  What offensive drivel.  I can't imagine ever dealing with someone who would traduce an unhappy customer in such a way.

post #1024 of 1785
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Originally Posted by Balfour View Post


Wow.  What offensive drivel.  I can't imagine ever dealing with someone who would traduce an unhappy customer in such a way.

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post #1025 of 1785
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Originally Posted by Balfour View Post


Wow.  What offensive drivel.  I can't imagine ever dealing with someone who would traduce an unhappy customer in such a way.
Drunk posting in your non native tongue is never a good idea. biggrin.gif
post #1026 of 1785
I'm confused, is the oval head a asian reference? If so, doesn't he have asian investors? Does he call them oval heads?
post #1027 of 1785
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

I'm confused, is the oval head a asian reference? If so, doesn't he have asian investors? Does he call them oval heads?

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post #1028 of 1785
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

Drunk posting is never a good idea. biggrin.gif

FTFY
post #1029 of 1785
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

I'm confused, is the oval head a asian reference? If so, doesn't he have asian investors? Does he call them oval heads?

It's actually kind of a compliment, isn't it? Ovals are eggs, which signify either intelligence or fertility.
post #1030 of 1785
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYjdpMVzy4

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Matthew should receive his money back. If I were in his position I would have difficultly wearing the trousers without being reminded of such a hassle.
post #1031 of 1785
As Admiral James T. Kirk said when the USS Reliant approached the Enterprise without establishing communications, per Starfleet regulation, "This is damn peculiar."
post #1032 of 1785
This really sucks for foo.gif, obviously, and it's a shame this had to happen. It's unfortunate when someone takes advantage of the confidence placed in them by a consumer who then has little recourse when swindled.

I just hope that everyone realizes that while there are some bad eggs, the vast, vast majority of craftsmen and women are very honest and take pride in their product, including those in Italy. I hate it when stories like this reflect poorly on Italians in general. I have a great deal of affection for the country and its people in general, as well as many individuals in particular that I count as friends, and I also know the perception of Italians in the US and elsewhere, which sometimes gets exaggerated by mobster movies and unfortunate stories such as this. I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of making such inferences, but sometimes it seems inevitable.
post #1033 of 1785
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

This really sucks for foo.gif, obviously, and it's a shame this had to happen. It's unfortunate when someone takes advantage of the confidence placed in them by a consumer who then has little recourse when swindled.
I just hope that everyone realizes that while there are some bad eggs, the vast, vast majority of craftsmen and women are very honest and take pride in their product, including those in Italy. I hate it when stories like this reflect poorly on Italians in general. I have a great deal of affection for the country and its people in general, as well as many individuals in particular that I count as friends, and I also know the perception of Italians in the US and elsewhere, which sometimes gets exaggerated by mobster movies and unfortunate stories such as this. I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of making such inferences, but sometimes it seems inevitable.
Don't worry. We have Jersey Shore to set the record straight.
post #1034 of 1785
Quite interesting. lurker[1].gif
post #1035 of 1785
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

This really sucks for foo.gif, obviously, and it's a shame this had to happen. It's unfortunate when someone takes advantage of the confidence placed in them by a consumer who then has little recourse when swindled.
I just hope that everyone realizes that while there are some bad eggs, the vast, vast majority of craftsmen and women are very honest and take pride in their product, including those in Italy. I hate it when stories like this reflect poorly on Italians in general. I have a great deal of affection for the country and its people in general, as well as many individuals in particular that I count as friends, and I also know the perception of Italians in the US and elsewhere, which sometimes gets exaggerated by mobster movies and unfortunate stories such as this. I'm not accusing anyone in this thread of making such inferences, but sometimes it seems inevitable.
weeeeeeeellllll, yes and noooo ...

My experience with the Italians has been good, I've never not gotten what I paid for, etc. However, one does, IME, need to accept a certain level of ... insouciance if one wishes to avail oneself of their services. Calls not returned, trips announced but not made, goods declared finished but not shipped, and long, loooooong delays are par for the course.

But I am happy with everything I have bought and I think I got a great value. The style is great, the quality is there, etc. I factor in the hassle and delays and just conclude that they're worth it.
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