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post #16 of 22
Yeah Um Nsfw.
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by millevanille View Post
So did I--LOL'd at the opening slideshow.
the website is blocked at my work...
post #18 of 22
Forum member Ob5curity posts a lot of pics wearing SuitSupply on WAYWRN; can't say anything about the quality but the cut looks pretty decent for the price point.
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by OttoSkadelig View Post
favorite line from article:

"Both testers said the $614 Suitsupply suit matched the $3,625 Armani in quality."

very possibly true.

Perhaps fabrics matched up well and that is all they are looking at. I did not see much mention on canvassing.

I cant imagine a $614 suit hand made with fully canvassed construction utilizing the finest wools - sorry man, the $$$$$ dont add up. The minimum for such a well made suit is about $1.5K, but $614 is Joseph Abboud or Joseph A Bank price territory. Sorry, something has got to give or perhaps they do not pay their tailors (they work for free).

While Armani are grossly overpriced and their $3K suits are a bit over rated, they are still pretty decent and I would be immensely suprised if a $614 suit was equal or better. I could buy into an argument that a well made $1.5K suit could match up quality wise to Armani, but $614 = I highly doubt it.
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by Klobber View Post
I cant imagine a $614 suit hand made with fully canvassed construction utilizing the finest wools - sorry man, the $$$$$ dont add up. The minimum for such a well made suit is about $1.5K, but $614 is Joseph Abboud or Joseph A Bank price territory. Sorry, something has got to give or perhaps they do not pay their tailors (they work for free).
I think you overestimate the production costs of a suit, even if it's handmade with best construction and cloth available. Most of the retail price of every suit above 1,500$ is spent for bringing it to the customer, marketing campaigns, nicely decorated shops in top-rated city locations. If you want to find a customer for a suit with this price tag, you have to sell him more than just clothes. It has to be a status symbol, the customers have to feel in line with all the past and present VIP wearers of the brand.

Therefore you can't judge this by comparing the retail prices alone. Suit Supply is a no-nonsense, low cost brand with a kind of a pirate image in the european fashion industry, their clothes have to speak for themselves, so to say. With less marketing costs, cheaper shop locations and addressing another market segment they can be cheaper without the need to sacrifice certain quality aspects. And because they don't have much competition quality-wise in this segment at this time, they are able to grow.

But nevertheless you are right, the OTR Suit Supply suits are not hand made and they are only half canvassed (their MTM suits are fully canvassed, but naturally more expensive than 614$). I can say from my own knowledge that they are definitely not equal in quality to the Giorgio Armani Mainline or Zegna Couture or Kiton or RLPL or whatever in this league of RTW clothes. It would be ridiculous to suggest that. They are way better made than Armani Le Collezioni or Hugo Boss, though. From what I can say, they are quite on par with the mainlines of Paul Smith and Prada. They have a very good PQR, fine cloth from well-known italian manufacturers, above-average construction details and interesting cuts and designs, not more, not less.
post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by bluesman528 View Post
I think you overestimate the production costs of a suit, even if it's handmade with best construction and cloth available. Most of the retail price of every suit above 1,500$ is spent for bringing it to the customer, marketing campaigns, nicely decorated shops in top-rated city locations. If you want to find a customer for a suit with this price tag, you have to sell him more than just clothes. It has to be a status symbol, the customers have to feel in line with all the past and present VIP wearers of the brand.

Therefore you can't judge this by comparing the retail prices alone. Suit Supply is a no-nonsense, low cost brand with a kind of a pirate image in the european fashion industry, their clothes have to speak for themselves, so to say. With less marketing costs, cheaper shop locations and addressing another market segment they can be cheaper without the need to sacrifice certain quality aspects. And because they don't have much competition quality-wise in this segment at this time, they are able to grow.

But nevertheless you are right, the OTR Suit Supply suits are not hand made and they are only half canvassed (their MTM suits are fully canvassed, but naturally more expensive than 614$). I can say from my own knowledge that they are definitely not equal in quality to the Giorgio Armani Mainline or Zegna Couture or Kiton or RLPL or whatever in this league of RTW clothes. It would be ridiculous to suggest that. They are way better made than Armani Le Collezioni or Hugo Boss, though. From what I can say, they are quite on par with the mainlines of Paul Smith and Prada. They have a very good PQR, fine cloth from well-known italian manufacturers, above-average construction details and interesting cuts and designs, not more, not less.

That was a good wealth of information and well constructed comment. Thanks.
post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by millevanille View Post
So did I--LOL'd at the opening slideshow.

Well, at least there's no pretense about it. "Our suits will get you laid so much that you don't even react anymore!". No beating around the bush there. Pun not really all that intended.
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