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This thread is gold.
post #47 of 62
^sarcastic?
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^sarcastic?

Nope. I'm in the same boat.
post #49 of 62
^cool than welcome! I think we should make this a thread something where people can/should post work related questions and situations to help one another move up in this world.
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Agree, something akin to "Quick Questions and Thoughts Thread"
post #51 of 62
On the "getting shit done" theme, so much of it is basic and really just common sense. Be the guy that steps up to write the meeting summary, include next steps and assign responsibility for each one. Boom, you're in charge.
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The best thing you can do at a junior/entry level is:

Make yourself as indispensable as possible.
Make an effort to be liked. I think being "respected" is for the bosses. If you can do both, congratulations but I think at a junior level it's more important to be liked than respected.
Be competent.
Be respectful.
Look outside for yourself first and foremost but respect the needs of your workplace and those around you.

I'd like to make a comment on that first point, because there's a lot of confusion here (whether people are aware of it or not).

You want to make your job/position dispensable. You don't want to make yourself dispensable. You are not your job or your position, and the elimination of a position does not take away what you can bring to the table. What I have found personally to be most effective for myself is to do everything I can to eliminate my position. If you can do that and your managers are competent, then they will move you onto bigger and better things. If they aren't, then you probably don't want to stay there anyways.

Call it process optimization, automation, continuous improvement, kaizen. Whatever your preferred term, there's always going to be a place for people who can put aside their concerns for their own jobs for the benefit of the organization.
post #53 of 62
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Agree, something akin to "Quick Questions and Thoughts Thread"

I'll start it... whats a good name for it?
does this work:
Official Work Situations Quick Questions and Thoughts Thread?
post #54 of 62
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I'd like to make a comment on that first point, because there's a lot of confusion here (whether people are aware of it or not).

You want to make your job/position dispensable. You don't want to make yourself dispensable. You are not your job or your position, and the elimination of a position does not take away what you can bring to the table. What I have found personally to be most effective for myself is to do everything I can to eliminate my position. If you can do that and your managers are competent, then they will move you onto bigger and better things. If they aren't, then you probably don't want to stay there anyways.

Call it process optimization, automation, continuous improvement, kaizen. Whatever your preferred term, there's always going to be a place for people who can put aside their concerns for their own jobs for the benefit of the organization.

i see what your saying but that can backfire sometimes, companies might just eliminate you
post #55 of 62
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i see what your saying but that can backfire sometimes, companies might just eliminate you

Perhaps, but he makes a good point. The more things you can do and the more value you create the less likely you are to get the axe.
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Perhaps, but he makes a good point. The more things you can do and the more value you create the less likely you are to get the axe.

The people who want to make themselves "irreplaceable" by not documenting anything or leaving bad obfuscated code and intermingled processes so that they "can't be fired" are usually pretty mediocre people. It can keep you from advancing (since you are now harder to replace) but it sure as hell won't stop them from firing you and replacing you with an employee that makes it easy for others to check their work.

The people who make themselves "irreplaceable" by being better able to add value than any potential replacement are the winners. I would much rather be given a task, figure out a process to turn that task into "anybody can do this" and find my own replacement (who can be a lower-skilled worker) and move on to something new than try to cling to my job by using secret voodoo tricks.
post #57 of 62
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The people who want to make themselves "irreplaceable" by not documenting anything or leaving bad obfuscated code and intermingled processes so that they "can't be fired" are usually pretty mediocre people. It can keep you from advancing (since you are now harder to replace) but it sure as hell won't stop them from firing you and replacing you with an employee that makes it easy for others to check their work. The people who make themselves "irreplaceable" by being better able to add value than any potential replacement are the winners. I would much rather be given a task, figure out a process to turn that task into "anybody can do this" and find my own replacement (who can be a lower-skilled worker) and move on to something new than try to cling to my job by using secret voodoo tricks.
Of course. I think that's fairly self evident and most of us are probably aiming to be the second employee in your example. For awhile now at my office I've asked the support staff if they want to be given more complex tasks (basically the basic stuff I do in my job) and then I've asked management to allow them to get their feet wet. I think everyone wins in a case like this: I show initiative, more work gets done, and the support staff aren't doing mind numbing stuff all day, every day. /Self congratulations.
post #58 of 62
1) Make money for the company
2) Save time for the company or your department
3) Be able to do something that nobody else can do (that is important). Essentially this is "make yourself indespensible"

If you do the above, you do not have to be as good at office politics. Celery, apparently some people (on this board) perceive you as negative. I don't. BUT the recommendations (the Carnegie book, and the specific response to the offsite mtg question from your boss) given here are things you should follow up on. It's a necessary evil type thing.

Being excited about some offsite thing? Hahaha. Not likely. But part of your boss's job is to motivate people. So "hey, this is going to be great, right?" is him trying to make things more exciting. Yes, it's extremely lame. But you gotta play along (or you gotta be indispensible and make the company lots of money)

I make $$$ per hour 'cause I can do things others can't do. So at the moment I work a few hours then screw around at cafes, look at girls, and on scour the internet and see if I can find Berlutti shoes to by for cheap.
post #59 of 62
Dude, tell us where you're buying Berluttis on the cheap. Cool thread. I like fredfred's advise. Not sure if I saw someone mentioning the absolute importance of technical skills. Check this out - I'm in healthcare but got an MBA. During my program, I got to know an Indian professor who consulted on corporate boards. He was telling me how sooo many of these people couldn't even read a frickin' balance sheet!! OMG. I've just come to the conclusion - and I am not cynical or arrogant - that most people are not very good at what they do. If we can just be a few percent better across the board, the results will be impressive. Another skill - present well and dress like you own the place.
post #60 of 62
Any tips on networking and kissing ass without blatantly looking like you are doing so?
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